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compound adjective structure



noorhamza
Tunisia

compound adjective structure
 
Good morning
 
What is the compound adjective of the sentence: "a man with a lovely smile"?
 
Is it correct to say: a lovely-smiling man? 
 

19 Oct 2016      





yanogator
United States

It really isn �t possible. The closest would be "a lovely-smiled man", but that doesn �t work well at all.
 
Bruce 

19 Oct 2016     



L. habach
Morocco

What about: a lovely-smiling man?

19 Oct 2016     



yanogator
United States

I think lovely-smiling works grammatically, but no one would ever use it. This really can �t be done.
 
Bruce 

19 Oct 2016     



redcamarocruiser
United States

I agree with Bruce. 

19 Oct 2016     



Jayho
Australia

Agree - grammatically correct, yes, natural usage, no

19 Oct 2016     



normandey
Egypt

On the contrary, I think a lovely smiling man is correct. I have seen this phrase in Longman dictionary; " • a roomful of smiling children " .
 
I also saw it repeated too many in Google images.

19 Oct 2016     



dany.Tunisia 123
Tunisia

the ruleis adjective +noun+ed
so the best answer would be a lovely-smiled man whereas there is no need for a compound adjctive here as the structure that is most often used is a man with a lovely smile 

20 Oct 2016     



Matthew@ELSP
Japan

Great question.
 
My colleagues who are Japanese speakers of English often ask questions to which I can only answer as Bruce did.
Yes, it is correct, according to the rules, but we would never say it.
I ask the same kind of questions about Japanese, so I guess this is not �an English thing �.

20 Oct 2016     



Apodo
Australia

A lovely smiling man means a lovely man who is smiling.
 
This is different from a man with a lovely smile.
 
So are you describing the man as lovely or the smile? The smile I think. So my preference is for the man with a lovely smile to avoid ambiguity and because it sounds more natural. 

20 Oct 2016     



yanogator
United States

@dany
Yes, the "rule" is adjective+noun+ed, but not every noun can be used in this way.
 
A man with long arms is a long-armed man.
A woman with a tall hat is a tall-hatted woman.
This is because "armed" can mean "having arms" and "hatted" can be taken to mean "wearing a hat". However, we just don �t see "smiled" as meaning "having a smile". I think it might be because "smile" is as much a verb as a noun, so "smiled" feels like a past participle rather than an adjective formed from the noun. That �s just my impression, not based on anything grammatical.
 
Bruce 

20 Oct 2016     

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