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Have breakfast or have my breakfast?



gharbi2009
Tunisia

Have breakfast or have my breakfast?
 
Dear colleagues,
 
I īm wondering if you could tell me whether we use possessive adjectives with the expressions have breakfast, have lunch, have dinner or not? It is British English we teach in our schools. Thanks beforehand.
Gharbi

15 Feb 2017      



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Hi Gharbi. t all depends! īLet īs go and have dinner ī - no. īLinda īs having her breakfast/Linda īs having breakfast ī - not much difference. So, I don īt think it matters. 

16 Feb 2017     



gharbi2009
Tunisia

Thanks a lot

16 Feb 2017     



ldeloresmoore
China

In general, using possessives doesn īt have to be so confusing --- 
 
Many of my students will say "I will go to the gym to exercise my body",  "I want to lose my weight", 
 
A native speaker won īt say it like this --- Here īs how I explain it to my students:
 
I will say "I will go to the gym to exercise". I don īt need to say "my body", because I can īt exercise anybody else īs body.
 
I will say "I want to lose weight". I don īt need to say "my", because I can īt lose anybody else īs weight.
 
"Donna is eating her breakfast" -- this is ok to say, because it is actually possible for her to eat someone else īs breakfast.  
 
Just a general idea. Hope this makes it easier.  

16 Feb 2017     



Jayho
Australia

Sometimes we do, and sometimes we donīt. and most of the time there is no difference.
 
However, sometimes when we do use the possessive adjective it is to emphasise something
 
eg:
Iīm having my breakfast/lunch dinner (so donīt disturb me) 
Thatīs when I have my breakfast/lunch/dinner (so, no I canīt do it then) 
Can we do it after Iīve had my breakfast/lunch/dinner (I really need to have my breakfast/lunch/dinner before I do it) 
 
Cheers
 
Jayho 

17 Feb 2017     



gharbi2009
Tunisia

Thanks Cunliffe, Ideloresmoore and Jayho for your help. It is really helpful.

17 Feb 2017     



Gi2gi
Georgia

By the way, I was wondering - does anyone use the term īthe conjoint form of the possesive pronouns ī instead of īthe possesive adjectives ī (My, your, etc...) and īthe absolute form of the possesive pronouns ī instead of īpossesive pronouns ī (mine, your, etc...)?  

17 Feb 2017     



Jayho
Australia

Gi2gi - not anyone I know, but then teaching ESL, where immersion plays a major role in learning, may focus less on grammar than when teaching EFL where opportunities for authentic exchange is less frequent and so there is more reliance on grammar. 

In addition, I can bet your bottom dollar that most Australian native speaking teachers will never have heard of conjoint and absolute forms of pronouns and they certainly donīt feature in our Australian ESL text books whereas the more commonly known terms do.

Cheers

Jayho

17 Feb 2017     



Gi2gi
Georgia

Jayho - thanks for the message - you īve made quite good points about ESL/ EFL teaching and grammar.  Admittedly, I must have been a victim of some Soviet-era grammarians - and there are quite a few like me - who were forced to learn from their (probably bizarre)  grammar books :)
 
Giorgi 

18 Feb 2017