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Miss_Alel�
Argentina

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HI there can anybody help me? I have this doubt: Which sentence is correct:
 
The room was empty. There WASN �T NOBODY there.
The room was empty. There WAS NOBODY there.
 
And what about this?
 
I haven �t got MONEY.
I haven �t got ANY MONEY.
 
I �m at a lost here ... please helpppp!!

26 Mar 2009      





Gribouille9
Canada

Hi,

There wasn �t nobody there is incorrect because its a double negation ;
it should be There wasn �t anybody there.
There was nobody there is ok too.
 
And i think...really not sure here :
I haven �t got money and I haven �t got any money are both correct
but the 2nd one puts emphasis on the fact that you dont have any money
at all whereas the first one just says that you have no money (maybe no
money in your pockets but some at home...)
 
Hope this can help.
 
Have a great day!

26 Mar 2009     



alien boy
Japan

Good response there Gribouille9.
 
The room was empty. There WASN �T NOBODY there.
This is a �double negative � which according to traditional prescriptive grammar is unacceptable. It is, however, common in many dialects of spoken English.
 
If you wanted to use WASN �T then the sentence should be:
The room was empty. There WASN �T ANYBODY there.
 
�I haven �t got MONEY � can also mean that you are not wealthy, as distinct from not having money with you at the present time.
�I haven �t got ANY MONEY � - the ANY is stressed and emphasises the lack of money.
 
Cheers,
AB

26 Mar 2009     



eng789
Israel

Sorry but  -  I haven �t got money.  should be   I don �t have money (to spend ...) . 

But it sounds better to say ---  I don �t have any money. 

I haven �t got any money.  - is fine.

26 Mar 2009     



Vickiii
New Zealand

Ummm - just a pedantic point that drives me crazy some days.

It is - I have a question rather than I have a doubt.


26 Mar 2009     



Spagman63
Hong Kong

The British like to use "have got" or "haven�t got "so either form is okay: "I don�t have any money" or "I haven�t got any money".  I would say that "I haven�t got money..." is usually used before an object.  Like this: "I haven�t got money to buy a soda."  Not possessing something is often accompanied with "any".

26 Mar 2009     



douglas
United States

Speaking from feel here:
 
"They (don �t) have money." usually refers to one �s more long-term financial staus as in "they are rich/poor".
 
I don �t have any money refers to the current (more temporary) status as in "I don �t have any money (with me) to buy a cup of coffee."
 
--The "have got" discussion we had yesterday.
 
--Alien boy is right about the double negative you can say either:
 
   "There wasn �t anybody..."   or
   "There was nobody..."
 
Douglas

26 Mar 2009     



goodnesses
Algeria

Hi all.
to be short..
 -I don �t have money. OK = I am not wealthy.
 -I don �t have any money. OK = I lack some money to buy/do sth
 -I haven �t got money. NOT OK
 -I haven �t got any money. OK = I lack some money to buy/do sth

 -The room was empty. There WASN �T NOBODY there. NOT OK
 -The room was empty. There WAS NOBODY there. OK

Hope it helps!

26 Mar 2009     



alien boy
Japan

Hi goodnesses!

according to Swan (Practical English Usage, 3rd ed) got is perfectly acceptable

have got (details)
Do is not used in questions and negatives with got.
      Have you got a headache? (NOT Do you have got ... )
      The flat hasn �t got a proper bathroom. (NOT The flat doesn �t have got ... )
Got-forms of have are not used in short answers or tags.
      Have you got a light? ~ No, I haven �t. (NOT , �lo,f haven �t got.)
      Anne �s got a bike, hasn �t she?

Got-forms of have are less common in the past tense.
       I had flu last week. (NOT I had got flu ... )
       Did you have good teachers when you were at school?

Got is not generally used with infinitives, participles or -ing forms of have: you cannot usually say to have got a headache or having got a brother. The infinitive of have got is occasionally used after modal verbs (e.g. She must have got a new boyfriend).

Have got is rather less common in American English, especially in questions
and negatives. In very informal American speech, people may drop �ve (but not �s) before got.
      I( �ve) got a problem.
Got- and do-forms may be mixed in American English, especially when short answers, reply questions and tags follow got-forms.
      I �ve got a new apartment. ~ You do?


There are many more example & references to got that I won �t post.

So essentially got would be more commonly used in Standard British English than Standard American English. Therefore "I haven �t got money" would also be OK to use.

Cheers,
AB

26 Mar 2009     



goodnesses
Algeria

Dear Alienboy.

I think the problem is the use or not of "any" and the use of "nobody" after a negative verb.

So, "I haven �t got any money." sounds incorrect for me but not "I don �t have any money."

For "nobody" I am sure it is incorrect after a negative verb.

26 Mar 2009     



arkel
Ireland

I haven �t got any money is a perfectly correct sentence in Standard British English.

26 Mar 2009     

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