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either, neither



mjotab
Spain

either, neither
 
Hi, this is a question about pronuntiation.
At University, I was taught to pronounce [ �aɪ�ə(r)] and [ �naɪ�ə(r)] but people around me usally say [ �i:�ə(r)] and [ �nɪ:�ə(r)] and an English friend told me he had never heard [ �aɪ�ə(r)] and [ �naɪ�ə(r)], so I �m confused now.
Could you tell me what I should say? What do you say?
Thanks, it �s nice to have sb there.

21 May 2009      





Dulcinea87
Spain

Both ways are correct. It depends on where you live.

Loot what this dictionary says:
http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=either

Hope this is helpful!

:D


21 May 2009     



nkappa
Greece

I think both are correct! Maybe it has to do with dialects...

21 May 2009     



tricia973
Uruguay

Hello mjotab!
 
well, when I studied phonetics and phonology I was taught that we have to accept in general there is no single way of saying something. In terms of pronunciation, and as you are a non native you should "stick" to a variety. What I �ve found is that most americans prefer /i:/ but they use both pronunciations interchangeably.
 
As far as I know, British speakers also use both interchangeably, but /ai/ is used more by the middle classes. The /ai/ pronunciation seems slightly more �intellectual � (and Americans think to use /ai/ exclusively seems to be more �pretentious �...)
 
So, as I can see... it is just a matter of preference...
 
I hope you find it useful!
 
Have a nice day!!! Tricia

21 May 2009     



mjotab
Spain

So, the pronuntiation with "ai" seems to be more "posh". If I don �t want to give the wrong impression, I should use the i: Smile

21 May 2009     



ballycastle1
United Kingdom

As a native English speaker, I use them interchangeably. As the Louis Armstrong song goes:
You say either and I say either,
You say neither and I say neither
Either, either,
Neither, neither,
Let �s call the whole thing off.
 
Let �s just agree to differ!

21 May 2009     



kmtr
United States

I �m a native speaker in the US and both are used interchangeably, like ballycastle1 from Britain said.

21 May 2009     



liverpuliana
Spain

I always thought it depended on where you lived, but my husband is from Liverpool and he says both of them, depending on I don �t know what, so now I use both of them too. Just copying a native speaker. I suppose both are correct.

21 May 2009     



mjotab
Spain

Thank you all of you. Then I will stop worrying and say whichever of them that comes to my mind first!

21 May 2009     



crisholm
Spain

You might like the complete song (you can find the video on youtube):

Let �s Call The Whole Thing Off

Lyrics by Ira Gershwin; Music by George Gershwin

Things have come to a pretty pass
Our romance is growing flat,
For you like this and the other
While I go for this and that,

Goodness knows what the end will be
Oh I don �t know where I �m at
It looks as if we two will never be one
Something must be done:

You say either and I say either,
You say neither and I say neither
Either, either Neither, neither
Let �s call the whole thing off.

You like potato and I like potahto
You like tomato and I like tomahto
Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto.
Let �s call the whole thing off

But oh, if we call the whole thing off, then we must part
And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart

So if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas,
I �ll wear pyjamas and give up pyajahmas
For we know we need each other so we
Better call the whole thing off
Let �s call the whole thing off.

You say laughter and I say larfter
You say after and I say arfter
Laughter, larfter after arfter
Let �s call the whole thing off,

You like vanilla and I like vanella
You saspiralla, and I saspirella
Vanilla vanella chocolate strawberry
Let �s call the whole thing off

But oh if we call the whole thing of then we must part
And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart

So if you go for oysters and I go for ersters
I �ll order oysters and cancel the ersters
For we know we need each other so we
Better call the calling off off,
Let �s call the whole thing off.

I say father, and you say pater,
I saw mother and you say mater
Pater, mater Uncle, auntie
Let �s call the whole thing off.

I like bananas and you like banahnahs
I say Havana and I get Havahnah
Bananas, banahnahs Havana, Havahnah
Go your way, I �ll go mine

So if I go for scallops and you go for lobsters,
So all right no contest we �ll order lobster
For we know we need each other so we
Better call the calling off off,
Let �s call the whole thing off.

Gershwin, George & Ira. "Let �s Call The Whole Thing Off." George and Ira Gershwin Songbook, disc 10. [From the Film: "Shall We Dance", 1936.

 It �s also good to explain differences to students.

21 May 2009     



crisholm
Spain

This is the link to the youtube video:
 
 
 

21 May 2009     

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