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Then I suggest taking a look at your grammar books and you will see that I am correct. I have checked two books, I can look at all three that I have and I bet that I am right...
Dear Zora. Far from me to challenge you or any one else. This is something I have never accepted from my SS. Never heard my colleagues using it. Some of them were my teachers especially one who I can say is my reference. I hope he is around.
From me to you, I don �t trust grammar reference on Websites. I got frustrated many times.
I think, when it comes to grammar, there are reference books, which are not a bunch, that we can relay on. You �ve just given one.
I have it (them), I will check no need to the page Nbr. I don �t want to tell my pupils something I am not sure of.
I am sorry goodnesses.. I just get a little frustrated when something like this arises since I have always taught that all three ways are correct AND in school (when I was a young girl ) I was taught that it was also correct - grammatically... Not that it is overly used in everyday speech.
SORRY ALL for the space: Here is an excerpt from reference "Practical English Usage" 3rd Ed. Sometimes or often in grammar books we have to read more than we expect in order to apprehend the exact point.
have (4): have (got) - possession, relationships
and other states
1 meanings
We often use have to talk about states: possession, relationships,
illnesses, the
characteristics of people and things, and similar ideas.
Her father has a flat in Westminster.
They hardly have enough money to live on.
Do you have any brothers or sisters?
The Prime Minister had a bad cold.
My grandmother didn´t have a very nice personality.
Sometimes have simply expresses the fact of being in a particular
situation.
She has a houseful of children this weekend.
I think we have mice.
2 progressive forms not used
Progressive forms of have are not used for these meanings.
She has three brothers. (NOT She is having th7ee brot;.´1e7s.)
Do you have a headache? (NOT Are you hewing a heatlttche?)
3 questions and negatives with do
In American English and modern British English, questions and negatives are
commonly formed with do.
Does the house have a garden?
Her parents did not have very much money. l>
page 207
have (4): have (got) - possession, relationships and other states 237
4 shorter question and negative forms:
Have you ... ?; she has not
Short question and negative forms (e.g. Have you ... ?, she has
not) were
common in older English. In
modern English they are rather formal and
uncommon (except in a few
fixed expressions likeI haven´t the faintest
idea).
They are not normally used in American English.
- Have you an appointment? (formal Bre only)
Do you have an appointment? (AmE/Bre)
- Angela has not the charm of her older sisters. (formal Bre only)
Angela does not have the charm ... (AmE/Bre)
5 have got
In conversation and informal writing, we often use the double form have
got.
I´ve got a new boyfriend. (More natural in speech
than I have a new
boyfriend.)
Has your sister got a car? I haven´t got your keys.
Note that have got means exactly the same as have in this
case - it is a present
tense of have, not the present perfect of get.
6 have got (details)
Do is not used in questions and negatives with got.
Have you got a headache? (NOT Do you
have got ... )
The flat hasn´t got a proper bathroom. (NOT The flat doesn´t have got ... )
Got-forms of have are not used in short answers or tags.
Have you got a light? ~ No, I haven´t. (NOT ,´lo,f haven´t got.)
Anne´s got a bike, hasn´t she?
Got-forms of have are less common in the past tense.
I had flu last week. (NOT I had got flu ... )
Did you have good teachers when you were at school?
Got is not generally used with infinitives,
participles or -ing forms of have: you
cannot usually say to have got a headache or having got a
brother. The
infinitive of have got is occasionally used after modal verbs (e.g. She
must have
got a new boyfriend).
Have got is rather less common in American English, especially
in questions
and negatives.
In very informal American speech, people may drop ´ve (but not´s)
before got.
I(´ve) got a problem.
Got- and do-forms may be mixed in American English,
especially when short
answers, reply questions and tags follow got-forms.
I was wrong because there is so much in grammar books that we can �t get it all. There are also things that we tend to forget with time because we don �t refer to them very often. But , it is always a little frustrating when it comes to thing that we think are simple and evident. However, I won �t be so intransigent about it like I did so far with the kids as I won �t teach them it too. I will keep on with the 2 forms I am used to.
Though I can sometimes seem challenging when dealing with grammar, it is never my real intention. Often, my idea is "maybe they are right somewhere". If not why do they ask? And contradicting is just to get the right unquestionable answer.
) I was taught that it was also correct - grammatically... Not that it is overly used in everyday speech.
