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ESL forum > Grammar and Linguistics > Is there a coma?    

Is there a coma?



szamoca
Hungary

Is there a coma?
 
Good morning!
Please tell me where should I put a coma in this sentence, before who?
 
The book which is a bestseller is written by Nathan Davis who has written ten novels.
Thank you!

9 Oct 2009      





supereme
France

Good morning !!
 
you should put the coma here: by Nathan Davis, who...
 
Cheers

9 Oct 2009     



alien boy
Japan

I �d be inclined to put commas in the following positions:

The book, which is a best seller, is written by Nathan Davis, who has written ten novels.

There are two relative clauses - one about the book & one about the author.

Regards,
AB

9 Oct 2009     



mokus19
Hungary

I think AB is right! I should use the commas in the same places...

9 Oct 2009     



vickyvar
Greece

I think I �d write it this way:

The book which is a bestseller is written by Nathan Davis, who has written ten novels.

I wouldn �t put the first relative clause in commas as it is defining and necessary to understand which book you are talking about. The second one is a non-defining clause, thus can be put in commas, as it only gives some extra information about the author.

Hope this helps and you can also look up defining - non-defining relative clauses.

9 Oct 2009     



alien boy
Japan

vickyvar has made a good point!

However it really does depend on the context within which tha statment is made as to whether it is a defining or non-defining clause.

The first relative clause would be defining if we knew there was more than  one book as an option.

i.e. The book which is a bestseller (as distinct from any other books that are not bestsellers) is written by Nathan Davis, who has written ten novels.

This does seem, however, very unnatural to me as a native speaker! I �d expect to hear or read it:

The book is a best seller written by Nathan Davis, who has written ten novels.
 or
This book is a best seller written by Nathan Davis, ....

edit: However, when the commas are inserted as per my original post, it then becomes a natural native English expression.

The construction �The book which is a bestseller � sounds/reads like someone who is not a native speaker. After I take care of some other pressing issues I �ll try & find a reference from Swann to add to the discussion.

Cheers,
AB

9 Oct 2009     



szamoca
Hungary

 
Thanks for your quick answers.

9 Oct 2009     



mjotab
Spain

I agree with alien boy, I think "which is a bestseller" is non-defining too. I am not a native, but it would be the same in Spanish.

9 Oct 2009     



ozquivir
Spain

Both are acceptable and totally correct

9 Oct 2009     



aaelaim
Egypt

The best answer is answered by Alien Boy

9 Oct 2009