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SEE / HEAR



Krysstl
France

SEE / HEAR
 
Hello everybody !
 
Who can explain the difference between :
 
I saw her crying  and  I saw him take an envelop ???  Ermm
 
I �m a bit lost... Thanks for your answers and explanations !!
 
Have a nice week-end... ! Wink

27 Feb 2010      





serene
Greece

The -ing form implies a longer action while the infinitive form implies a shorter or instant action.
 
edit: I�ve also found the following explanation which supports pilarham�s suggestion.
 
With the verbs see, hear, watch, and listen to, the meaning can change depending on whether an -ing participle is used. Compare these sentences:

�  Stella saw the children cross the road.
�  Stella saw the children crossing the road.

In the first one - Stella saw the children cross the road - the use of cross in the simple form implies that Stella saw the complete action � she saw the children cross the road from start to finish. But in the second one - Stella saw the children crossing the road � the use of the participle suggests that Stella saw the children while they were crossing the road � she didn�t see the complete action.

27 Feb 2010     



pilarmham
Spain

As far as I know, when you see someone crying you see part of the action. When you see someone cry, you see the whole process.

Have a good Saturday.

27 Feb 2010     



PhilipR
Thailand

You can use either infinitive or gerund in this construction. I don �t see a significant change in meaning.

I saw him go/going up the stairs.
I saw him take/taking an envelope.

27 Feb 2010     



Zora
Canada

I agree with Phillip. Smile

27 Feb 2010     



eng789
Israel

I saw him take - he took it - and left (maybe)
I saw him taking - he was in the process of taking it ( as I looking for the correct size)  - If I didn �t stay to see till the end of the process - he may not necessarily have taken it in the end.

27 Feb 2010     



yanogator
United States

As PhilipR said, the difference is small. It �s a matter of emphasis, as with the difference between simple tenses and continuous tenses.
 
"I was walking to work ... " focuses on the process.
 
"I walked to work." focuses on the result.
 
The same is true here, but to a smaller degree.
 
I think I can show you the small difference by expanding one of your examples.
 
"I saw him taking the envelope, and told him that he should have asked first." (This all happens at the same time)
 
"I saw him take the envelope. I hope it wasn �t your last one." (The action is completed, and the emphasis is on the result, not the process.)
 
"I heard the birds singing."  In this, the focus is on the process over time.
 
"I heard the birds sing."  In this, it is a simple statement about a past event.
 
The difference is rather small, but there is a difference.
 
Bruce

27 Feb 2010     



Krysstl
France

Greeeeeeeeaaaaaaaat !! Thank you very much for all your answers !! Thumbs Up
 
Now, I can go to school next Monday without any disturbing questions in my head any more !!
 
Thank you again !!
 
Enjoy your week-end ! Heart

27 Feb 2010