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Grammar and Linguistics > Perfect Continuous Passive + tense list
Perfect Continuous Passive + tense list
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sulekra
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Perfect Continuous Passive + tense list
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Hi to all my colleagues who haven �t started their Friday afternoon partying;D
One of my classes asked me to create a review which uses every tense, so I just have two questions with regards to this.
Is �perfect continuous passive � grammatically correct but unused, or is it just plain incorrect, because I �m having trouble finding a definitive answer? I �ve never used it in my life, but I thought I �d double-check.
e.g.
-I have been doing all the work around here.
All the work around here has been being done by me.
-I had been organising the festival for five years when I decided to stop.
The festival had been being organised by me for five years when I decided to stop.
-By next year I will have been teaching the class for ten years.
By next year the class will have been being taught by me for ten years.
So strange to look at it, I think I �m going to be ill hehe;)
In relation to this I wanted to check if there are 21 tenses - present/past/future(3), plus perfect(6), continuous for each of these(12), and 9 passives if I don �t include the three mentioned above(21) - or are there some extras I could trick them with?:) I hope it�s only 21 because it will be a much more interesting number to discuss in an article than 20 or 22 etc...
Thanks guys!
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25 Jun 2010
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perma
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the �perfect continuous passive � does not exist!
I can �t count the tenses right now (too tired!) but you can include modals in the review e.g. "it must be done" etc. |
25 Jun 2010
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libertybelle
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I bought Michael Swan �s look-up grammar book because it has all the answers.
But I would use all the first sentences - not the second ones.
-I have been doing all the work around here.
I had been organising the festival for five years when I decided to stop.
the second sentences sound weird.
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25 Jun 2010
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mariamit
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There are 12 tenses in the active. According to Swan the future prpogressive and the perfect progressives (present, past and future) are not used in the passive. MArtin Hewings in Advanced English Grammar (CUP) says that the present perfect continuous si rare in the passive. So I guess it �s up to you which opinion you may accept. PErsonally I am a native American speaker and I have never used the perfect tenses in the passive. Like Libertybelle says it just "sounds weird"
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25 Jun 2010
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Zora
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Hi Sulekra!
As Perma (and Mariamit!) pointed out the Present/Past Perfect Continuous doesn �t have a Passive Tense... that �s why it sounds strange to you! 
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25 Jun 2010
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maali87
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Hi
I don �t think that Present Perfect Continuous has a passive. It �s strange. |
25 Jun 2010
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sulekra
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Thanks to those who responded:)
Mariamit �s comments sums up the dilemma well, because some books just say it �s technically correct but isn �t used, while some say it �s incorrect grammar. I have seen it used in some very old poems, but I guess the zeitgeist has spoken and it �s officially incorrect grammar...
The perfect tenses are used in the passive though - just not the continuous ones.
-The painting had been stolen by John, but Peter was blamed for it.
-This emergency phone has been used many times since it was installed.
I �m going to stick with 21 tenses, so does anyone know any interesting facts about the number 21? Other than blackjack and legal drinking ages, because I know all teachers love gambling and whiskey hehe;)
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25 Jun 2010
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jannabanna
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Have you included the subjunctive? I often put it on the lists even though it �s just another way of using the past simple and the past perfect, it does include could/would:
I wish I were rich.
It �s (high) time we went.
I wish I could stop smoking.
I wish it would stop raining.
Just a thought !
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26 Jun 2010
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tahriali
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| Active (Simple Forms) |
| Simple Present |
I drive |
| Simple Past |
I drove |
| Present Perfect |
I have driven |
| Past Perfect |
I had driven |
| will-future |
I will drive |
| Future Perfect |
I will have driven |
| Conditional I |
I would drive |
| Conditional II |
I would have driven |
| Active (Progressive/Continuous Forms) |
| Simple Present |
I am driving |
| Simple Past |
I was driving |
| Present Perfect |
I have been driving |
| Past Perfect |
I had been driving |
| will-future |
I will be driving |
| Future Perfect |
I will have been driving |
| Conditional I |
I would be driving |
| Conditional II |
I would have been driving |
| Passive (Simple Forms) |
| Simple Present |
I am driven |
| Simple Past |
I was driven |
| Present Perfect |
I have been driven |
| Past Perfect |
I had been driven |
| will-future |
I will be driven |
| Future Perfect |
I will have been driven |
| Conditional I |
I would be driven |
| Conditional II |
I would have been driven |
| Passive (Progressive/Continuous Forms) |
| Present |
I am being driven |
| Past |
I was being driven |
| Present Perfect � |
I have been being driven |
| Past Perfect � |
I had been being driven |
| Future � |
I will be being driven |
| Future Perfect � |
I will have been being driven |
| Conditional I � |
I would be being driven |
| Conditional II � |
I would have been being driven |
� Tenses which are rarely used in everyday conversation. |
3 Jul 2010
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