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some, most ?
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baiba
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some, most ?
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Hello nice people,
I am having some problems understanding the difference between
some students - some of the students
most students - most of the students
When and why do we use each variant?
Cheers
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16 Jan 2011
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baiba
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Thank you both for answering but what I don �t get is the difference between some students and some of the students.
I have to teach it according to the course programme, so I assume there is a difference.
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16 Jan 2011
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douglas
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some and some of the.. have the same meaning
The only tiny difference I could imagine is that "some of the.." refers to a specific group of students and "some..."is more general.
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16 Jan 2011
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serene
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Hi Baiba
I �m not sure but perhaps we use some/most students when we are talking about students in general while some/most of the students may refer to a particular group of students. Just an idea though... I �d like to hear some other opinions as well.
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16 Jan 2011
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serene
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Oh, hi Douglas, I must have been typing when you posted.
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16 Jan 2011
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baiba
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Hi Douglas and Serene,
I had the same vague notion but let �s look at these phrases
Some students in my class .....
Some of the students in my class ....
Let �s assume "my class" is a specific group but I can still use both variants. Do you think there is NO difference at all?
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16 Jan 2011
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serene
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Well, in that case I think that when you are talking about a specific group maybe both are correct. However, if you are talking generally, you can �t say some of the students, e.g Some students (in general) never do their homework.
Some of the students never do their homework (generally) doesn �t sound very good to me. But again I �m not sure.
Sorry I can �t be of much help!
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16 Jan 2011
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baiba
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Thank you, dear Mariethe!!! I kind of understood - with the help of Google translator.... 
Thanks everybody for your help!
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16 Jan 2011
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