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zvonka.rink
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The right phrase
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Hello dear colleagues,
I would like to ask you for help. I �m not sure whether you can say: He was excluded from school. I would use expelled from school. What do you think? I looked the phrase up but the examples in the dictionary don �t mention school, but use the phrase in other contexts.
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12 May 2011
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douglas
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_(academia)
Something I didn �t know, but apparently there is a difference in the UK school system.
As I understand the above link, if you are expelled too many times you can be excluded from the entire school system.
Can any UK folks confirm this?
Edit (from link):
"...in the state sector in the UK it is rare for a pupil to be expelled (permanent exclusion is the current term for expulsion)." --so sometimes there is a difference between the terms (?). |
12 May 2011
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susanjwh
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If he was excluded from school, then it will be for a set time, and he can return.
If he is expelled from school, he will never be allowed to return.
At least that is how we use the term in the UK.
:-)
Susan
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12 May 2011
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franzjosefaut
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To be expelled from school means a punishment has been decided upon. If a student is to be expelled for good, never allowed back, the school must find an alternative for the student.
A student may be excluded from scholastic activities for various reasons.
Hope this helps.
Greetings,
Franz
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12 May 2011
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douglas
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http://www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=99&id=2239
Based on southern Australian school system rules:
Suspension is a form of discipline. A student is not allowed to attend school or go to school activities for a set length of time. This length of time can vary from a few days to many weeks, depending on how bad the problem behaviour is.
Exclusion refers to longer periods of suspension (within the public (government) school system). As well as suspension and exclusion, a more extreme form of discipline that is sometimes used is
expulsion. This refers to the exclusion of a student from a school or school system for a period ranging from 6 months to a number of years.
According to the Minnesota (USA) school system:
Expulsion means a school board action to prohibit an enrolled student from further attendance for up to 12 months from the date the student is expelled.
Exclusion means an action taken by the school board to prevent enrollment or reenrollment of a student for a period that shall not extend beyond the school year.
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12 May 2011
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zvonka.rink
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I would like to thank you all for your suggestions and answers. I now understand the difference although the meanings differ depending on the variety of English (AmE, BritE).
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12 May 2011
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