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Can you recommend me a good restaurant?



spinney
United Kingdom

Can you recommend me a good restaurant?
 
Just wondering if any of the grammar hawks among you might be able to tell me why it �s considered wrong to say "Can you recommend me a good restaurant?" It sounds perfectly fine to me but I was listening to an ESL radio station the other day and they said it was wrong. Was the guy wrong? Is there an American/Brit difference I don �t know about? What are your thoughts on this on? While I �m at it, is there an exercise on here with a list of verbs that don �t take object pronouns? I often have that problem with advanced level students ("can you confirm me?" etc...)

9 Jul 2011      





Mariethe House
France

I would just miss out the pronoun and say: "Can you recommend a good restaurant?" Just what I seem to remember hearing in England in such circumstance!Smile

9 Jul 2011     



spinney
United Kingdom

Thanks Mariethe! I think that �s wise. Perhaps it �s a regional thing. For example, I know it �s wrong to say "show it me" rather than "show it to me" but in parts of the UK that �s how we speak. Sometimes I think being a native can be just as much an obstacle as not. I would never correct a student for saying "me and my friends" for example (unless they had an exam coming up). The majority of Brits speak that way. In fact, to some, " My friends and I" sounds slightly comical. I suppose it �s that old argument about teaching them to speak "good English" "correct English" "native English" or "The Queen �s English." I makes my head hurt!

9 Jul 2011     



Gia Mel
Chile

just show it to us! Always happy to learn...

My opinion anyway...

Miss G.

9 Jul 2011     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

Hello, Dale
I always tell my colleagues that the fact that a volunteer is a native speaker doesn �t mean he/she is always correct :) They never get it...

Here �s what the dictionary gives;
recommend somebody/something Can you recommend a good hotel?recommend somebody/something (to somebody) (for/as something) I recommend the book to all my students.She was recommended for the post by a colleague.The hotel �s new restaurant comes highly recommended (= a lot of people have praised it).As to the exercises, maybe you�ll find something here.You might also find this site useful for your advanced students.Have a nice weekend,Sophia

9 Jul 2011     



libertybelle
United States

I never use recommend me - or recommend to me.
I think it �s understood in the question who you are recommending something to.

Can you recommend a good hotel?
Can you recommend a good place to eat?

To use "to me" or just "me" sounds like a literal translation. In Danish, directly translated - you DO say "Can you recommend me" - but it doesn �t sound correct in English.

9 Jul 2011     



mariec
Spain

http://www.grammar-quizzes.com/infinitive2b.html
 
TRY THIS SITE.
 
I�D SAY: 2CAN YOU RECOMMEND A GOOD RESTAURANT?
 
  HAPPY WEEKENDSmile

9 Jul 2011     



almaz
United Kingdom

I guess if you look at the meaning(s) of �recommend� - to suggest that someone or something would be good or suitable for a particular job or purpose, or to suggest that a particular action should be done - you�d find that using the bare me as an indirect object (as opposed to �me� as a direct object) after recommend doesn�t really work. Mind you, the language is adapting constantly and I think we�ve all noticed that this particular usage is becoming fairly common outside the �inner circle� and may eventually be considered �normal�.

By the way, Dale, I don �t think there�s anything particularly wrong with the phrase�give it me� (although I don �t personally use it and I �ve only rarely heard �show it me�) and it �s certainly not restricted to the UK. For example, The Corpus of Historical American English will give you over a 100 separate entries for �give it me�, with most of them occurring in the 19th century. It�s kind of old-fashioned, but maybe this is the analogy you �re using when you�re thinking of recommend?

9 Jul 2011     



PhilipR
Thailand

I agree with Almaz that language is constantly changing. I think this is a case of nitpicking. Everyone clearly understands what is meant and nobody can seem to point out a particular rule why it �s incorrect.

Can you recommend a good restaurant? perfect usage
Can you recommend a good restaurant to me? sounds a bit contrived if you ask me but is correct according to the rules
Can you recommend me a good restaurant? maybe not completely correct, but definitely used regularly by many - I wouldn �t correct a student if they used this phrase

BTW, the same probably goes for �I �d like to recommend (you) a good restaurant �.

9 Jul 2011     



yanogator
United States

Good compromise, Philip. If you consider the parallel sentence "Can you tell me a story?", this seems all the more natural.
 
Bruce

9 Jul 2011     



spinney
United Kingdom

Perhaps it �s Spanish infecting my English with its grammar rules. Who knows? Anyway, I now have an even bigger headache thinking about it than before. I think I �ll copy and paste this and give it to the next pesky student that asks this sort of question! I �m off to take an aspirin! 

9 Jul 2011     

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