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Relative Clauses - when to omit that/which/who?



moravc
Czech Republic

Relative Clauses - when to omit that/which/who?
 
One of my students find it really difficult to decide whether to omit "that / which / who" or not.
The woman I saw was old. but: The man who wrote the book is my uncle.

Is there an EASY trick?

and question two: do you happen to know any website with many examples of these sentences?

I know this topic is easy for advanced students but my student is lower-intermediate and she doesnīt read very often. She doesnīt have the "feeling" for it...

2 Aug 2011      



anitarobi
Croatia

http://nautilus.cilta.unibo.it/ingleseb2/materiali/relative_link.html - perhaps you might find sth here, although many students don īt have the feeling for it. I usually let my students read it to themselves aloud with and then without the relative pronoun and ask them if it makes sense without. Most of them get it this way.

2 Aug 2011     



sona21
Czech Republic

I tell my students that they can omit "that, who, which" when it is followed by subject of the relative clause (usually pronoun). It works really well.Smile

2 Aug 2011     



moravc
Czech Republic

Thanks a lot Sona, your "trick" seems pretty easy!
I got a similar message from David...

Does any of you know whether there are any exceptions to this rule?

We can omit "that, who, which" when it is followed by subject of the relative clause (usually pronoun) in defining relative clause (with no commas).

2 Aug 2011     



Zsuzsapszi
Hungary

Hi,

I agree with sona21. I also teach this to my ss. And answering to your latest question I don īt know any exceptions to this rule you wrote.
So you can omit that, who or which only in defining relative clause an only if it isn īt followed by object of the relative clause.
And I also tell my ss to be careful because you mustn īt use that in non-defining clause. (Sometimes they forget it.)

Hope I could help.

Hugs,
Susan

2 Aug 2011     



almaz
United Kingdom

@ Nika

I can think of one possible exception where there is no subject relative pronoun - but it īs definitely informal: there īs a guy works down the chip shop swears he īs Elvis (Kirsty MacColl). 

It could be re-read as there īs a guy (who) works down the chip shop (who) swears he īs Elvis, if you so wish... 

2 Aug 2011     



moravc
Czech Republic

Thanks a lot!!!
Great tips!

2 Aug 2011