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Message board > unemployment figures in Britain:
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Zora
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I �d like to add this snippet and then you will see why I am such a naysayer against the "reasons" behind these riots.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/spai-j25.shtml
We have more youth unemployment here and our youth is idle, Police have broken up peaceful demonstrations with force and NObody started looting and rioting. Our youth isn �t more educated, in fact we fall behind England in International exams,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
So what �s the difference? We have unemployed immigrants... figures hit a 30% mark. Is it that we have better behaved youth (I doubt it). Is it due to racial problems? (Well, we have them here too... we are the doorway to Europe from Africa). Are we more open-minded to "races". Not really. In fact, I �d say we are less tolerant in Spain. So, what is the difference? I think that as much as one looks at this... it is not acceptable - at all. Even Police admit a lot of the looters are kids out of school summer break) that are bored and want to cause problems.
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11 Aug 2011
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Mariethe House
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Just ask yourself a simple question: Why are they bored?
When you are bored, do you get that violent?
Why did they get that violent?
What Happened in France a few years back? In greece this year? In Spain, ( They were repressed by force and now the problem is solved! hurrah!)
This burst of violence is the tip of an iceberg . You can �t contain your anger for ages when nothing can be done to improve your living conditions and yor expectations for the future!
What will happen to these youngsters? Put to prison? Maybe special camps to put them in the right again? Or maybe we should get rid of them? ( This is sarcasm of course!)
I am angry that the population of teachers that we are should not think beyond the event and see that, as you say, they are kids and what should be done for these kids before they burst into violence? BTW, in Paris, it wasn �t the holidays when the riots happened . Of course idleness is a ggood trigger for starting being "silly" . But What do they do, what do we do to prevent it ?
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11 Aug 2011
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cheezels
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Having taught in London for 8 years and half that time was in very "rough" areas. Here is my take.
No one cares about each other anymore. Its a me me me me me me me me me society.
When you call a parent about their kid hitting someone in the face, it �s never their fault. Their kid would never do it. When other children �s shoes go missing and you find a child with them, no they didn �t steal them, (or slash them with scissors), it certainly was not them.
I have had parents (PLURAL over my time teaching there) arrive at school HIGH (A group used to smoke week right outside the school gates just before the end of the day), DRUNK and have had parents RAGE at me, nearly hitting me, screaming at me for example if I had kept their kid in for a TEN MINUTE LUNCH DETENTION because their child had hit someone, thrown things across the classroom, swore (not only at other kids but at me or another adult), stolen or destroyed another child �s property. No consequences for bad behaviour and the kids learnt that it was ok to scream and spit at your teacher because they have no right to punish the sweet darlings. (sarcasm) What does that teach a generation? My experiences are not out of the ordinary.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6320011.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-130670/Mother-jailed-punching-pregnant-teacher.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013288/Violence-schools-doubles-year.html
This is the underbelly of London and other parts of England these days.
Children who come to school with no food in their bellies as no one gets up to feed them, their school uniforms are washed once a term if they are lucky.
Now these families while they are not rich, they all have money for cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, flat screen tvs, cars, fancy mobiles, playstations AND Wii and nintendo but cant get their arses out of bed to feed or take care of their kids before school. The adults in their lives just dont care.
One school I worked at, we started to open at 7am every morning so that kids could come and eat before school.
The riots to me were not political in any way. Youth who are wannabe gangsters (as that is who they aspire to be) taking as much as they can, "cos its free innit."
Talking about "respect man" cos you need to respect us.
Oh PLEASE.... no one is going to respect you when you hurt others.
Now there are hard working (AND POOR) communities in london that would never dream of doing this. THOSE parents made sure their kids were HOME and accountable.
You will find from reporting that many of the people arrested and that have been processed so far HAVE GOOD JOBS, GOOD QUALIFICATIONS, What the hell were they thinking?
Mob mentality. They all wanted something for nothing. And that is what is eating our society from the inside out.
Celebrity, being famous, being rich (but not actually having to be good at anything or work hard to get there), instant gratification, getting what you want when you want it.
A view of the world that everyone owes you something and you don �t have to work, or do anything that requires effort, as well " that would mess up my day innit"
Until you live in these areas (like I have) and worked with young people and hear the often ludicrous things they try to justify, you realise that their world view is seriously warped and is solely stuck on the "me me me" channel.
Not all youth are like this. But there are too many that hold these views in our schools and communities.
The people that looted and burned down buildings are nothing but feral scum and its about time that the government, the schools, parents and everyone who cares about their community finally took a hard line stance against anyone who does this sort of thing.
I mean a no tolerance policy across the board, not the pandering that has over the years given the criminals more rights than the people they hurt. That crime and violence will NOT BE TOLERATED.
Maybe then, people will start to care more about each other rather than their own selfish needs.
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11 Aug 2011
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seansarto
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It �s offensive to me how the British police have no problem opening fire when the Northern Irish go on riot, (who have legitimate political aims) and how apologists posting statistics like these on the web, (in whatever forum they can impose themselves upon), don �t seem to mind it all that much when those "rioters" get shot....Just when it is the African they show lenience and support because popular media dictates that they do. |
11 Aug 2011
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Mariethe House
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Sean! It was just as condemnable for me !
To Cheezels: I know what you are talking about but why has the situation gone so critical? What is done to prevent this situation! What makes the parents behave like that, ? If we have come to such critical situation, where are we going? Isn �t it time too ask whys and whats should be done? Where did the education system in britain go wrong? Teachers are crammed under work ... They are controlled by their colleagues to see if they are doing their job properly! They are weakened by the system and when it comes to managing kids and parents , it is almost impossible for them! I agree it is not tolerable to let pare,nts treat their children and teachers like that! But why are they cutting jobs in the Education system when they know some areas are so hot? Why? Why?Why?
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11 Aug 2011
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ueslteacher
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One of the first people charged over the riots, a teaching assistant at a primary school in south London, a mentor to the young. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14484239Not exactly one of the underprivileged kids. Sophia
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11 Aug 2011
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anaisabel001
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As far
as I am concerned I strongly condemn free violence but I believe today�s youth aren�t
the only ones to blame for. I fully agree with Mariethe that it is a
question of poverty and unfair display
of our wealthy world.
Harmful
economic systems are the principal cause of poverty and hunger. Economic power
typically ends up in the hands of a minority, who live well, while those at the
bottom barely survive.
Quoting
maryse pey��
Our work of teaching is one of the most wonderful in the world. What for? To
make the youth better understand some adults are too powerful�.
I think it�s outrageous that while millions
of people are dying from hunger our so well educated political leaders, bank
managers ...etc have the nerve to increase their salaries and pension plans.
http://www.expansion.com/accesible/2011/04/13/empresasbanca/1302648003.html
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/03/01/economia/1298966460.html
Linda, I
am not ashamed at today�s youth�I think most of them are extraordinary people
who have a good education, show more concern, tolerance and love for others
than most of us, adults do.
Cheezels, I know what you mean but it�s
time to ask for solutions. We are also responsible for children and youth�s education.
Seansarto, I do condemn violence any form of violence!!!
I also agree with Anna if there were more
Mariethes in our society, our world would be a nicer and fairer place.
Have a nice and peaceful day! 
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11 Aug 2011
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Zora
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By the way... it is not the teachers�who need to "educate" today�s youth... the cutbacks have nothing to do with the violence going on (as cheezels and sofia have pointed out)... it�s the parents! I think that each and every underage looter or rioter �s parent should held accountable for the damage their little "baby" did. That is the only way to make people socially responsible.
If a parent has to pay for his child�s errant ways, I bet that it will not happen again.
As Gandhi put it:
�The Roots of Violence: Wealth without work, Pleasure
without conscience, Knowledge without character, Commerce without
morality, Science without humanity, Worship without sacrifice, Politics
without principles�
Now back to work for me. 
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11 Aug 2011
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Redbull
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Dave....... Lets back our country and have the backbone to wipe out this burning and looting problem!  REDBULL GIVES YOU WINGS YOU KNOW  . |
11 Aug 2011
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