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I got a bit confused about this sentence...



jocel
Philippines

I got a bit confused about this sentence...
 

Dear colleague!

A great day everyone! Could anybody help me about this sentence structure?
 
I found this sentence in one of the exercises from a book with the lesson about question tags. But I found this sentence a bit strange...
 
    "You �ve never stop, ______?"
           a. do you?
           b. don �t you?
 
Letter �b � is the answer. According to the book.
 
If we will not contract the sentence it will be �You have never stop... � So it means it has the pattern of Present Perfect Tense.
 
My question is, HOW and WHY letter b is the answer? But I guess there �s no right answer. Please help me...
 
Could anybody help me to understand this? Thanks in advance!!!
 
Hugs,
 
jocel
 

2 Sep 2011      





canterina
Italy

I �m as confused as youWacko

Shouldn �t it be "You never stop, do you?"
Or...."You �ve never stopped, have you"?
 
What does "I �ve never stop" mean?The  Present perfect tense wants a past participle, doesn �t it?=

2 Sep 2011     



douglas
United States

"You�ve never stop" is incorrect (wrong).
 
It could be:
 
"You�ve never stopped, have you?"
 
"You never stop, do you?"
 
Douglas

2 Sep 2011     



PhilipR
Thailand

Even the best exercise books have occasional mistakes and typos. This is obviously one of them. Just correct the exercise with what Douglas proposed.

2 Sep 2011     



ldthemagicman
United Kingdom

Jocel,
 
I agree with the previous writers.
 
Les 

2 Sep 2011     



jocel
Philippines

Thank you so much for your help douglas , PhilipR and ldthemagicman! You helped me a lot!

Now I�m clear�

Thanks also to ESLprintables. This site is really great! Thanks Victor!

Enjoy the rest of the day!

Hugs,

jocelyn

2 Sep 2011     



Zora
Canada

@rttrr,

You �ve overlooked the "you �VE" part... you cannot say "You �VE never stop". The sentence is wrong.

Although, "do you?" would be the correct answer since "never" is a negative particle/adverb and therefore makes the sentence require an affirmative question tag.

2 Sep 2011     



ldthemagicman
United Kingdom

Dear rttrr,

 

Perhaps you think, "there is nothing wrong with the question".

"You �ve never stop, ______?"

But there is!

It is ungrammatical.

Your reply is not correct!

 

In this sentence, �stop� is a verb, not a noun, (as your own sentence indicates: "You never try to stop ... ...")

 

(With thanks to):

Oxford Collocations Dictionary for Students of English, 2nd edition

never adv.

Never is used with these VERBS: cry , dream , encounter , end , envisage , envision , escape , fail , falter , flinch , forget , forgive , happen , intend , last , learn , like , materialize , meet , mention , realize , recover , refer , regain , regret , slacken , solve , STOP , stray , think , touch , vary , venture , want

� Oxford University Press, 2009

 

Michael Swann, �Practical English Usage�, OUP, page 418, gives examples of the Present Perfect Tense, including:

She�s never apologisED for anything in her life.�

(�She has never apologised for anything in her life�)

 

As others, (including Jocel, the original questioner), have correctly indicated, the question under discussion is also written in the Present Perfect Tense.

 

You �ve never stop, ______?�  (Except that �stop� should be the Past Participle, �stoppED).

Writing this question without any contraction, the question becomes:

You have never stop, ______?�

 

You contend that this sentence is equivalent to:

�You (??? have ???) never try to stop but continue on your own way ... do you?�

Firstly, for some unexplained reason, you alter the sentence from the Present Perfect Tense to the Present Simple Tense.

Secondly, you have decided to ignore the small, but extremely important word, �have�.

Thirdly, if this were an equivalent sentence, (which it is not), the appropriate Tag Question after, �you continue on your own way�, would be, �Don�t you?� not, �Do you�, as you suggest.

 

A more accurate rendering of your sentence could be:

�You have never tried to stop but have continued on your own way ... haven�t you?�  (Present Perfect)

 OR

�You never try to stop but continue on your own way ... don�t you?�  (Present Simple)

 

As others have correctly indicated, the original question should be:

"You�ve never stopped, have you?"  (Present Perfect)

OR

"You never stop, do you?"  (Present Simple)

 

The original question which was posed by the Exercise in the Book,

"You �ve never stop, ______?"

is grammatically incorrect.

I am sorry to be so blunt.

 

Les

2 Sep 2011