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poli222001
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Help!!!!!
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Hello everyone!! I have a question. How do you say when you lose a game and because of that you have a kind of punishment like running around the table three times or that kind of silliy things. I �d appreciate your help. Cheers!!!
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1 Feb 2012
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Stellam
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I think the word is "forfeit"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/forfeit
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1 Feb 2012
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libertybelle
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I think when you forfeit a game - you give up.
This question was about losing a game.
My gym teacher made us take laps around the track field.
(I hated that teacher and anyone who makes a losing team "a shame of honor".)
That �s a terrible thing to do.
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1 Feb 2012
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poli222001
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Thank you so much!!! that was the word!!!!!!!!!
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1 Feb 2012
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yanogator
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Libertybelle, this is something smaller than the "punishment" you are talking about. "A forfeit" (and it is definitely a noun and always with the article) is a pre-arranged/agreed thing that is given or done by the person who loses. It is an old-fashioned term that was common 100 years ago, but not so much today Bruce |
1 Feb 2012
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libertybelle
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Bruce -I beg to differ. I hear people use forfeit all the time - also in the UK.
You can forfeit your right to something - which means give it up.
It �s also often used in legal terms. Just because teachers don �t use it that often, doesn �t mean that it �s not often used in other professions.
It �s really not that old a word at all, and is also used in Real Estate.
There is also a great difference in what words are still in use in the US and the UK.
I was surprised to hear Brits use the word reckon! To me that was a "country/cowboy" word, but they use it all the time.
Here is an interesting site using that word:
http://www.ehow.com/how_6618536_forfeit-u_s_-citizenship.html
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1 Feb 2012
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Jayho
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Hi LB
We use reckon all the time - it �s extremely common. Even one of the country �s best known TV hosts of a financial advice and investment program, Paul Clitheroe, uses it all the time.
I am afraid I can �t shed any light on the forum question. We don �t use forfeit (too formal) or punishment (too harsh) . We just say you lost - now you have to run around the table three times.
Cheers
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2 Feb 2012
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MoodyMoody
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In USA, forfeit can be used as either a noun or a verb. I agree that "a forfeit" is the correct term for what the OP asked about. Whether or not a forfeit is a desirable consequence of losing a game is debatable.
If you forfeit a game, however, it means that agree that you lose/lost the game due to outside circumstances. For example, several years ago, the Little League World Series (in baseball) was forfeited because the winning team unknowingly used a pitcher who was 15 when Little League rules state that players may be no older than 13.
A penalty, in a game, usually means that a player is punished for breaking the rules of the game. That �s where the term penalty box in hockey comes from.
We tend to use reckon as a verb in the Southern US; I reckon I can come up with an example if I think hard enough (tongue firmly in cheek). At least in the South, it is very much considered a word that is associated with country folk, low education, or "rednecks." I �ve never heard reckon used as a noun, although I have heard reckoning, which doesn �t have the stigma of reckon. Reckoning is a summing up, accounting, or logical consequence of an action. (World of Warcraft loves the saying, "The reckoning is at hand." Yes, I �m a WoW geek!) |
2 Feb 2012
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