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I ´m not a big fan of her or hers



colibrita
United Kingdom

I ´m not a big fan of her or hers
 
Hi Everyone

Grammar question:

Which is correct?

Sam adores Adele but I ´m not a big fan of a) her  b) hers

"hers" right???

Just having a bit of L1 interference...

Thanks

Colibrita

5 Feb 2012      



cunliffe
United Kingdom

yes - I ´m not a big fan of hers.

5 Feb 2012     



almaz
United Kingdom

I ´d go with Lynne (cunliffe)  - mainly because of the presence of ´of ´. It ´s a sort of oblique genitive, but I think your doubts may be due as much to L2 interference (think Spanish, Catalan or even French here) as mother-tongue . 

By the way, my wife adores Adele too, but I ´m definitely not a big fan.

5 Feb 2012     



colibrita
United Kingdom

Thanks folks

At the risk of being lynched I think Adele ´s rather overrated, and definitely overplayed on the radio!  overhyped just like Dido was. : )

5 Feb 2012     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

lynched? no way:)
I am not a fan, but I think she ´s got a powerful voice and vocally, I think, she ´s great.
Sophia

5 Feb 2012     



Jayho
Australia

I may be about to be lynched - who is Adele??

6 Feb 2012     



Greek Professor
Greece

Jayho, google and you ´ll see and hear! :)

6 Feb 2012     



moravc
Czech Republic

To Jayho - Adele is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw

BTW: "This is called the post-genitive or double genitive."
The postmodifier must be definite and human: the friend of yours, the bag of mine, the crime of hers, the name of yours, a dream of hers, a fan of yours, each songo of yours, the song of Mark´s, the story of Ian´s...
http://grammar.about.com/od/grammarfaq/f/FAQdoublegenitive.htm
The most frequent example is: a friend of mine, a colleague of yours, the son of hers.

6 Feb 2012     



almaz
United Kingdom

Nika, interestingly, the term ´double negative ´ has been dropped by some modern grammarians in favour of ´oblique genitive ´ because of in itself is not regarded as a genitive case marker (but is often understood as such especially by analogy with other languages - which kinda takes us back to the start of this thread...).

By the way, not too sure of the son of hers as a ´frequent example ´. That son of hers..., maybe.

6 Feb 2012     



colibrita
United Kingdom

Oh Jayho you made me laugh. Spme would consider you lucky...

Double genitives and oblique genitives, wow, you learn something new every day. Thanks Nika and Alex






6 Feb 2012     



Jayho
Australia

Alas, I didn ´t have time to google GP - I had to get to work.
 
While blissfully rolling in the dark depths of Adele-ignorance Nika and Sophia gallantly came to the rescue from a possible public lynching and provided a link to Adele ´s Rolling in the Deep.
 
Know I know - thanks.  But now, who is Dido??
 
 

6 Feb 2012     

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