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karka30
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Just curious:)
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Hi everyone!
I �m just wondering how the teaching job looks like in your countries. I mean not the inside classroom teaching, but the formal issues. Maybe you �d be willing to share? 1. How many teaching hours does a teacher have? And do you have any working hours which are not connected with teaching? 2. Do you have any formal path of career? If so, what are the rules? 3. What about holiday breaks?
In Poland: 1. Standard - 18 teaching hours + 2 additional (the headmaster usually devots it to groups of week or very good students). Any other activities that you take (preparation, writing materials, tests, teachers � meetings and so on) are compulsory of course but your salary covers just the 18 hours of teaching time. 2. Starting off at school you are a practicing teacher - for 2,9 years. Then you might get promoted to a contract teacher. After working on this position for 2 years, you may start again 2,9 year practice for appointed teacher. You collect materials and then have an official exam. If you get appointed teacher position again after 2 years of working you may start a 2,9 practice to be a diploma teacher. During this time you need to write a thesis and at the end of your practice defend it. 3. Standard: July, August free (last week of August teachers � meetings concerning the new school year), 2 weeks winter holidays, and few days (sometimes a week, depending on the calendar) on Easter, Christmas. Also usually longer weekend on 1-3.05 and one in June.
OOOps! What an elaborate!:) Hope you won �t get sleeping meanwhile;) |
1 Nov 2012
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ueslteacher
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hello, Today you �re back and you would like some feedback, right?
Sophia
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1 Nov 2012
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zailda
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Well said, Sophia.
Some use the forum to request things they could look for by themselves and I understand the forum as great time-safer, so I don �t question their choice; a few don �t even bother to say "thank you" to the ones who took their time in order to help.
Have a great holiday / weekend.
Zailda Coirano
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1 Nov 2012
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ueslteacher
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To be honest, Zailda, I usually appreciate feedback more than a "thank you" note. In this way people share opinions and you can see a different perspective as to what works well in different situations/learning environment/cultures. Sophia |
1 Nov 2012
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jarek2011
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Hi karka30,
I work as a teacher in Norway so I know quite a few things about the educational system and I can compare it to the one in my homecountry.
In Norway:
1. Standard - 25 teaching hours. Any other activities that you take (preparation, writing materials, tests, teachers � meetings and so on) are compulsory of course but your salary covers just the 25 hours of teaching time. At my school we had two staff meetings every week, this year we have only one every Monday.
Every teacher has 2 or more differnet subjects. I teach English and social science. My co-teachers have 3 or even 4 various subjects that they teach.
2. When you kick off your teaching career at school you do not have such nonsense as practicing/ contract/ appointed/ diploma teacher as we have back in Poland. Teacher is only a teacher and that �s that. But there is one big difference: every 4 yours your salary increases. The money that you earn as a teacher hinges on the number of years you have worked as one (seniority principle = the length of service in a job). There is one catch, though. You get maximum salary after 16 years as a teacher - later on you simply hit the glass ceiling.
3. Almost the same as in Poland, there are different public holidays though and they fall on different days. The summer break is usually shorter than in Poland (6 weeks) and the last week is spent on staff meetings. We have a 3-day-long autumn break in late September.
hope it helps,
jarek |
1 Nov 2012
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semio123
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at jarek 2011
Is that 25 hours of 60 minutes or is that a period which may vary from 70 to 50 minutes? What about salary in Euros?
I �m teaching in Italy 18 hours of 60 minutes, salary 1300-1400 euros a month.... |
1 Nov 2012
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jarek2011
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hi semio123,
1 lesson lasts 45 minutes
starting salary depends whether you hold a bachelor or master degree. for a teacher with a master degree it will be 2500 euro a month (after taxation). |
1 Nov 2012
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imartinet
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Hi everyone :) In France: 1) Teachers teach 18 hours which last 55 minutes each, at least (although for me this year it �s only 15 hours because it �s my very first year) but the headmaster can add other hours. I earn 1650 euros since I did a Master degree in uni. 2) After 5 years in Uni, we have to pass a quite difficult exam. Those who pass it get to teach like me, 15 hours a week for the first year. During the year we still have training sessions which are really boring, and around March-April we are inspected. If it goes well, we become "real" teachers. If not, you can sometimes do this for a second year, but you can also be fired. 3) As for the holidays, we get 2 weeks at the end of October, 2 weeks for Christmas, 2 weeks at the end of February, 2 weeks for Easter and finally 2 months for Summer. I know, that �s a lot !! But our systeme is a failure (well at least that �s what I think) and should be changed... |
1 Nov 2012
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ueslteacher
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Goodness me, you must be well off there in Norway, Jarek!:) It �s about 2000 Ukrainian hryvnas for a young teacher after taxation which is 189 euros. BTW in case you �re wondering utilities (for a two-room appartment) cost about 500 hryvna per month in summer and a LOT more in winter (in my city anyway) BTW food here is as expensive as in Europe... so they say.
Here in Ukraine the academic hour is also 45 min. The ful-time hours are also 18 but it �s sometimes more in big schools (I teach 22 hours per week) We get paid for the checking/marking of notebooks depending on the number of students in the groups we teach (though it �s not much at all) All the "extras" are not included in the salary. We also have to go to work during school holidays except for the public holidays. Summer vacation is 56 workdays for teachers in Ukraine and if you are a mother of 2 children under 15, you get 10 more days of vacation paid by the government. There are also activities for which you can have a day off during school holidays like if you had to work on Sunday as a member of the Jury in a city school olympiad. In our school we also have a thing called "labour agreement" which is something to do with the trade union and according to this agreement, you can also have 5 additional days off during summer holidays or other school holidays (when students don �t study) if you didn �t have a single sick leave during the previous school year. Every five years you have to take courses and be accredited with a qualification degree and then you either prove your previous qualifications or you upgrade them according to the following scale (if my translation is accurate): specialist (right after uni) teacher of the 2nd category teacher of the 1st category teacher of the highest category teacher methodologist
Sophia
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1 Nov 2012
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zailda
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Sophia, I know it �s a matter of culture and each country has its own, but when I was a little girl Granny taught me we should always say "thank you" for the ones who help or try to help us.
I know that what is polite for one country may be impolite for others, as for a Brazilian raised at a little town in the middle of nowhere an answer (thanking or giving feedback) is always necessary, even if we are terribly busy.
If the person managed to get the time to start a new topic, certainly it wouldn �t hurt to drop a few lines to the people who answered after all.
Just MHO.
Have a nice holiday.
Zailda Coirano
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1 Nov 2012
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jarek2011
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the money that I earn in Norway has its true value in Poland. During the summer break when I am in my home country I live like a lord. Here the cost of renting a place plus utilities eats away the 40% of my salary that is 1000 euro. Besides, the food is really expensive - a loaf of bread costs 5 euro, a carton of milk 5 euro etc. But I do have to admit that I bring in more than I did when I worked in Poland. |
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