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jina0721
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I need help
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Hello : )
I �m Jina from Republic of Korea.
I �ve taught 5th grade student about pronounciation.
I have a question.
cave -> keiv
save -> seiv
but "have" is not "heiv" it is "haev".
Why???????????
I don �t understand this.
plz help me.  |
21 Jan 2013
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douglas
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As happens so often in English--it is an exception, there is no logical explanation for it. |
21 Jan 2013
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almaz
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You seem to be aware of the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet), Jina, so you probably also know that the English language has somewhere between 13 and 21 phonemic vowels but these are represented by only five vowel letters (a, e, i, o, u). The history of English spelling and pronunciation - and their relationship - is a complex one, but the simple answer is that you can �t automatically use a single spelling for a single pronunciation in English; basically, you have to learn them separately.
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21 Jan 2013
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akaya
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this is due the historical development of the word. in English there is a mismatch between the letters and the way these letters are pronounced. the word cave is a middle english word that is borrowed from old french cava which in turn borrowed it from old latin cavus same thing fro save. it is a middle English word borrowed from old french sauf which is borrowed from latin salvo have on the other hand is an a middle english word (haven) which was developed from old English habban. some historical linguistics is of great value for English teacher. :)- |
21 Jan 2013
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Peter Hardy
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Love the previous answers, but may I add that English, with all respect, is a rubbish language? In other words, it �s made up out of eleven different languages! The greatest contributers were: Latin, Greek, French, Norse, Danish, German, Spanish and Friesian. Celtic is not even English either. It �s derived an area from Iberia, better known as Spain, to the Black Sea. Add some Slavian and Indian and you got a melting pot that hardly ever makes sense. But hey, it �s so challenging everybody wants to learn it! Thus, as Almaz adviced, learn the IPA! |
21 Jan 2013
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Lizaza
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I �m far from being an expert, but I have always thought that in case with have the sound ei was simply reduced because it �s used so frequently : )) crazy idea as it has turned out 
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21 Jan 2013
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ueslteacher
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You might enjoy watching The Adventure of English documentary. You will have a much better understanding of the language and what �s happened to it over the course of years. Sophia |
21 Jan 2013
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cunliffe
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@akaya - thanks for your post, which I really enjoyed, really informative. It �s great to look back and see how the language developed. |
21 Jan 2013
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