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Rule - "m" before "p" and "b"



Kita19
Portugal

Rule - "m" before "p" and "b"
 
Hello!
 
Last week a student of mine asked me if we must always write "m" (instead of "n") before the letters "p" and "b" in English. This is a rule we apply in the portuguese language, but I�m not sure if this rule also exists in English!
 
Can anybody help me, please? I wanted to answer my student correctly... Embarrassed
 
Thanks a lot!
 
Hug

1 Feb 2009      





traceyo777
Hungary

Not sure about that but we do have i before e except after c.

:-)

1 Feb 2009     



lomigue
Spain

I�m not sure but amphibian, amply,amber, ambient,ambulance,employ and all the words that I KNOW WRITE WHITH M before the letters P and B.
I hope help you

1 Feb 2009     



Kita19
Portugal

Yes, lomigue, I can�t remember of any word that has "n" before "p" or "b" either, but they might exist... Ermm is there a native speaker anywhere who can make this question disappear?Wink Just because if this rule really exists, I think native speakers should have been taught that in the primary school...
 
Thanks!

1 Feb 2009     



littlecityblue
France

No, there�s no rule in English like that.  Unpopular.  Unbutton.  No, definitely not.
Sara

1 Feb 2009     



Ivona
Serbia

There�s no strict rule, but changes do occur, e.g. with the prefix in- ...

in-competent, in-adequate, etc.

BUT

im-proper, im-perfect ... because of the labial �p�

(That�s how much i remember what i learned at university Embarrassed. I should brush up on it. You never know...)

1 Feb 2009     



Pinky Makus
Canada

Has anyone mentioned silent letters?� I only remember discussing this when I did a unit on silent letters.

Think about words like lamb,� climb, and thumb.� The b is silent.� But words like lamp, crimp, and shrimp the m and the p are pronounced.� Does this help at all?

2 Feb 2009     



alien boy
Japan

The spelling generally reflects the original pronunciation of the word. Originally the silent letters were sounded. As the spoken dialect changed/became socially more desirable  the word sound changed but not the spelling.

2 Feb 2009