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The Truth About Thanksgiving
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justinwade82
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The Truth About Thanksgiving
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The Truth about Thanksgiving
Just remember when you teach the myth of Thanksgiving about how the Native Americans supposedly helped the Pilgrims, it is nothing but a lie. In truth, the pilgirms were rapists, murderers, thieves who stole land and committed genocide. By teaching Thanksgiving you are helping perpetuate the myth that Native Americans were befriended by the Pilgrims and Puritans when in fact they were destroyed.
Thanksgiving is a day of morning NOT a day to give thanks.
Please teach the truth as you wouldn �t make worksheets that deny the Holocaust so why would you do the same to Native Americans? |
28 Nov 2013
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olaola
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the colonization of the new territories all over the world has always been a story of invasion, violence and prevarication... there is nothing new in what you are saying
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28 Nov 2013
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barbario
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nothing new, but it �s good to be reminded so we don �t become forgetful. that could be very convinient but certainly not fair |
28 Nov 2013
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almaz
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Rapists, murderers and thieves the Pilgrims may well have been, but without them the world wouldn�t have had big guns, big hair and Big Macs. A wee bit o� slack, people, please. |
28 Nov 2013
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cukurova
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Very interesting.I will definitely read these articles.Thanks a lot for sharing |
28 Nov 2013
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alien boy
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Interesting links :)
Thank you very much.
The first link (http://www.manataka.org/page269.html) is an excellent article - very fair, balanced and positive. Make sure you read it to the end!
The other articles are a reminder to me to always look beyond the myths and stories presented as fact in media & culture. �Truth � can often be moulded to suit a teller �s own ends, and that �truth � perpetuated without question.
To quote Chuck Larsen from the Manataka American Indian Council:
So here is a story for your children. It is as kind and gentle a balance of
historic truth and positive inspiration as its writers and this editor can make
it out to be. I hope it will adequately serve its purpose both for you and your
students, and I also hope this work will encourage you to look both deeper and
farther, for Thanksgiving is Thanksgiving all around the world.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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28 Nov 2013
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douglas
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From your text:
"Thanksgiving has always been a time of people coming together, so thanks has also been offered for that gift of fellowship between us all. Every last Thursday in November we now partake in one of the OLDEST and most UNIVERSAL of human celebrations, and THERE ARE MANY THANKSGIVING STORIES TO TELL."
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29 Nov 2013
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Peter Hardy
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History has been written by those who conquered. Secondly, history is a story of violence, and nothing else. Nevertheless we call our society civilised, despite the many acts of violence that still occur. As such, should we abandon all religious and patriotic celebrations and commemorations? Or should try to keep a flame of hope that humanity could be humane one day? Let �s change the world the only way we can, by changing ourselves, and, especially as teachers, live by example. So, Justin, you �d better start thinking about what you �re going to teach about Christmas and so on. But beware, telling everything as it really (sic) happened may turn your classes into R-rated events! Cheers. |
29 Nov 2013
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barbario
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I see you are getting very sensitive about the subject however I don �t think anybody is asking you to stop celebrating thanksgiving as is a celebration that has changed along the years and become something different with its own present history. Native americans (who exist)see things in a different way. For them is a day of sorrow and remembrance and I can �t think of any reason why they should get over it.Do Jews get over Holocaust? Are americans going to get over september 11? You can still celebrating and have feelings of love and getting together which are certainly good but why deny to tell the truth about the beginning of the thanksgiving celebration at the schools? |
29 Nov 2013
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almaz
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Or, you could take the satirical route...
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29 Nov 2013
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douglas
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And not to forget: many native American tribes also celebrated their (1 of 5 per year) Thanksgivings before and after slaughtering and enslaving other tribes. This is a human nature thing, NOT just a white man thing.
IMHO: whatever the antecedents, the premise of Thanksgiving is a good one which is celebrated (one way or another) by almost every culture in the world and it should be a day of being thankful--we have other days for remembering the bad things.
Douglas |
29 Nov 2013
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