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Jayho
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There is an alternative - a menage a trois! |
17 Feb 2009
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yunaked
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To put it briefly, we can ´t use ´ unless ´ in types 2 &3 conditional unless it sounds meaningful,can we? Thanks for your help. |
17 Feb 2009
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yunaked
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So no rule .How can we explain this to our pupils who are at a loss ´unless ´ they are given a rule? |
17 Feb 2009
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yunaked
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I ´ve just had a look at the esl worksheets and all of them are about ´unless+type 1 only ´ .Can anyone send any teaching material that would help? |
17 Feb 2009
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Zora
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Okay this is a "rule" of sorts... since I am not sure if it ´s something I just noticed over the years or if it really is for sure that way... but anyhow most of you know that English rules are made to be broken... 
Here ´s my "rule":
"Unless" is mostly used when the "clause" is a negative sentence or has a negative meaning...
I won ´t come "unless" John is there.
She can ´t finish her work "unless" there silence in the room.
Ivona wouldn ´t help John "unless he voted for her.
John wouldn ´t have seen the movie "unless" it had been produced by Tarantino..
See what I am getting at??
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17 Feb 2009
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yunaked
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Not necessarily negative.What about this one: you ´ll be late unless you hurry. |
17 Feb 2009
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Zora
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I said "a rule of sorts"... not that every sentence has to be negative... although, apart from first and zero conditional tense, you will find that most times it will be used with negative sentences.
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17 Feb 2009
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MissMelissa12
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This is just a simple and clear explanation:
Unless = If ... not.
unless + affirmative verb
You can ´t leave the house unless you say where you ´re going.
if + negative verb
You can ´t leave the centre if you don ´t say where you ´re going.
There is not rule to use unless, you just have to use it propperly according to what it means so that the sentence makes sense, and the message of the communication is fair. And of course unless can be used in any type of conditional.
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17 Feb 2009
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goodnesses
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Ok, guys
What about this:
-You won ´t succeed unless you work hard.
-You will succeed unless you don ´t work hard.
I don ´t think the negative verb (or meaning) should only be in the main clause unless you have a valuable reference.
I agree with the majority that unless is only used in a types 1 conditional structure.
There may be some exceptions which are not usual and for a special purpose. But the exception doesn ´t make the rule.
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17 Feb 2009
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Zora
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Uh, the second sentence makes no sense... 
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17 Feb 2009
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