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Holzauge
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been or gone?
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Hi colleagues. Today a stdent of mine wanted to know why is " This is the first time I have ever been abroad." correct and " this is the first time I have ever gone abroad" incorrect. Need your help. Many thanks in advance.
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14 Jan 2016
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oxXSABXxo
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been - you come back from abroad gone - you �re still abroad
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14 Jan 2016
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lourteacher
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I agree. You have been to a place after you have returned. By the way, my daughter has gone to Britain. she is living in Liverpool at the moment |
14 Jan 2016
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almaz
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With respect, I would tend to disagree with the formula "been = you come back from abroad; gone = you�re still abroad" as an answer to Holzauge�s query. It obviously works when comparing sentences like "I have been to Berlin" and "I have gone to Berlin", but note that there�s a very specific (present) time marker in the OP�s examples ("this is the first time...ever...") which changes the sense. "This is the first time I�ve ever been abroad": talking about an existing event (I�m still abroad). "This is the first time I�ve ever gone abroad": as above, but with the focus more on the actual travelling. In fact, I might ask lourteacher if this is the first time her daughter has ever been abroad � knowing that she�s still abroad, living in Liverpool.
Alex
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15 Jan 2016
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FrauSue
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Yes - the distinction is that "been" implies that you are still there (This is the first time) and "gone" implies that you went and returned, so we would use past simple: "It was the first time that I had gone abroad". |
15 Jan 2016
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zoemorosini
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been abroad = you �ve arrived at your destination gone abroad = you �re still in transit |
15 Jan 2016
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