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Mustn ´t or don ´t have to?



mari3lla
Italy

Mustn ´t or don ´t have to?
 
Dear colleagues, I need you help.
Teaching the difference between modal MUSTN ´T  and don ´t have to is quite simple.
 But I ´m stuck on this sentence and I need your help.
 
 
You.................................. go to school tomorrow, it ´s a holiday!
 
Which is correct: MUSTN ´T or DON ´T HAVE TO.
Thanks a lot 

11 Dec 2016      





chalco
France

definitely don ´t have to because mustn ´t indicates something that is strictly forbidden while don ´t have to is an absence of obligation

11 Dec 2016     



redcamarocruiser
United States

I agree with chalco.

11 Dec 2016     



mari3lla
Italy

That ´s what I thought too but with some doubts...
 
Thanks again and have a great Sunday! 

11 Dec 2016     



martinasvabova
Czech Republic

I think you mean the difference between don´t have to and needn ´t, not mustn ´t.

11 Dec 2016     



a2king
Vietnam

DON ´T HAVE To is my choice. because DON ´T HAVE TO means "you don ´t need to do that". In this circumstance, your sentence means "Today is a holiday, you don ´t need to go to school." 

By the way, I have got 1 question: What is the difference between "don ´t need" and "needn ´t"? 

11 Dec 2016     



FrauSue
France

 
a2king - Officially, "don ´t need" would be a main verb whereas "needn ´t" would be a modal. In reality, it ´s a bit more blurred.
 
You don ´t need a hat. The sun isn ´t too strong. (Main verb.)
You needn ´t bother ringing beforehand. We ´re sure to be in. (Modal.)
BUT You don ´t need to bother ringing beforehand. - this is also perfectly ok.
 
I hope that someone else (Bruce??) has a better response for you! 
 
 

11 Dec 2016     



yanogator
United States

Thanks for inviting me in, FrauSue, but we don ´t use "needn ´t" in the US.
 
Bruce 

11 Dec 2016     



a2king
Vietnam

Bruce - so it means that in the British English, there are not differences between "don ´t need" and "needn ´t", but in the American English, there is only "don ´t need". Is that correct?   

25 Jan 2017     



yanogator
United States

a2king,
That is essentially correct. We do have "needn ´t" in the US, but it is very rarely used.
 
FrauSue explained it well. There is a difference. One would say "You don ´t need a hat", but not "You needn ´t a hat", so there is definitely a difference.
 
Bruce 

25 Jan 2017