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Mustn īt or don īt have to?



mari3lla
Italy

Mustn īt or don īt have to?
 
Dear colleagues, I need you help.
Teaching the difference between modal MUSTN īT  and don īt have to is quite simple.
 But I īm stuck on this sentence and I need your help.
 
 
You.................................. go to school tomorrow, it īs a holiday!
 
Which is correct: MUSTN īT or DON īT HAVE TO.
Thanks a lot 

11 Dec 2016      





chalco
France

definitely don īt have to because mustn īt indicates something that is strictly forbidden while don īt have to is an absence of obligation

11 Dec 2016     



redcamarocruiser
United States

I agree with chalco.

11 Dec 2016     



mari3lla
Italy

That īs what I thought too but with some doubts...
 
Thanks again and have a great Sunday! 

11 Dec 2016     



martinasvabova
Czech Republic

I think you mean the difference between donīt have to and needn īt, not mustn īt.

11 Dec 2016     



a2king
Vietnam

DON īT HAVE To is my choice. because DON īT HAVE TO means "you don īt need to do that". In this circumstance, your sentence means "Today is a holiday, you don īt need to go to school." 

By the way, I have got 1 question: What is the difference between "don īt need" and "needn īt"? 

11 Dec 2016     



FrauSue
France

 
a2king - Officially, "don īt need" would be a main verb whereas "needn īt" would be a modal. In reality, it īs a bit more blurred.
 
You don īt need a hat. The sun isn īt too strong. (Main verb.)
You needn īt bother ringing beforehand. We īre sure to be in. (Modal.)
BUT You don īt need to bother ringing beforehand. - this is also perfectly ok.
 
I hope that someone else (Bruce??) has a better response for you! 
 
 

11 Dec 2016     



yanogator
United States

Thanks for inviting me in, FrauSue, but we don īt use "needn īt" in the US.
 
Bruce 

11 Dec 2016     



a2king
Vietnam

Bruce - so it means that in the British English, there are not differences between "don īt need" and "needn īt", but in the American English, there is only "don īt need". Is that correct?   

25 Jan 2017     



yanogator
United States

a2king,
That is essentially correct. We do have "needn īt" in the US, but it is very rarely used.
 
FrauSue explained it well. There is a difference. One would say "You don īt need a hat", but not "You needn īt a hat", so there is definitely a difference.
 
Bruce 

25 Jan 2017