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Message board > I got pissed.... LIVE A LITTLE
I got pissed.... LIVE A LITTLE
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Vickiii
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I got pissed.... LIVE A LITTLE
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An interesting conversation on the use of appropriate behaviour on our forum:
I got Pissed.
Do people really think that the use of bad language suggests that someone is �living it up � I really do hope not.
People really should get over the whole �being cool � attitude when they leave high school (preferably beforehand if they want to enjoy high school)
I know some teachers like to �get on their students level �. I do not think that the use of bad language is really doing this.
I prefer to instigate games, enjoy them, while maintaining very clear boundaries of behaviour and expectations in my classroom.
Regards
Vicki - raving on a little bit because I hate to see people resort to swearing to try and express themselves. The english language is so diverse that surely you could use any of the multitude of words available to express yourself without offending.
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14 Mar 2009
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manonski (f)
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While I agree that the use of bad language is not a way to look cool, maybe this thing is a matter of misunderstanding. Some people who are second language learners may not know how offensive the expression "p***** off" can be just like some people say "shut up" to their students when they want them to be quiet.
Glad to see you back after a while Vickiii. |
14 Mar 2009
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goodnesses
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Hi, manonski (f)
I don �t share your point of view. We �re talking about teachers here. People who had better know what language is offensive and which is not what ever they are. Second/foreign language teachers/speakers or else.
I don �t think there is a real teacher of English who doesn �t know that that to be "p***** off" is offensive. It is and in many languages, at least in mine + french.
regards
PS: What about someone who has just told me "You had better..." any teacher of any "language" know that this simple innocent expression can turn to be very offensive if not used carefully. Especially with people we don �t really know.
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14 Mar 2009
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alien boy
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Just to stir a little bit... taboo words are also an important cultural aspect of language! Anyone who wants to speak �like a native � needs to be aware of this aspect of lexicon as well.
Mind you, I wouldn �t go so far as to teach this to students - they can pick up this sort of thing from movies, TV, travel...
As far as the original post goes - it �s not my cup of tea to use that sort of language here - & it �s very rare for me to use �colourful � language at all.
Interesting... �I got p****d � means I got very drunk where I �m from. In the US it means angry?
I believe the poster was using the wrong register & obviously mistook this forum as a social forum for English teachers & not a valuable resource for professionals. I know plenty of teachers who use language like this amongst their peers when socialising.
I get the feeling some people are taking this instance a little too seriously 
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15 Mar 2009
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alien boy
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Funny, my impression here is that �shut up � isn �t considered as offensive in Japanese class rooms - coming from the teacher! - whereas in Australia it would be considered really offensive in the classroom. To be �p***** off � is a really common vernacular expression in Australia, so isn �t of itself particularly offensive (to the majority of Anglo Aussies) - it �s just casual rather than formal language.
Taboo language is a very interesting part of linguistic & cultural study.
Cheers
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15 Mar 2009
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Vickiii
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Just to clarify - I was on the side of not swearing on the forum!
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15 Mar 2009
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Jayho
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mmm - interesting thread ...
alien boy - tend to disgree with you regarding �To be �p***** off � being a really common vernacular expression in Australia �. As a born and bred Aussie city girl I believe it�s mostly unacceptable outside of pubs, parties and blue-collar worksites. It�s blokey language and many females would find it offensive, but maybe I see it this way because I�m a city girl. Sure it�s on TV but not that much. Most offices prohibit swearing and I must say I rarely hear this word. Even my three brothers don�t use it although they do use other swear words.
In terms of teaching I wouldn�t deliberately program it in my course but if it came up I would certainly deal with it - many migrants have been taught inappropriate language by neighbours and workmates without understanding the real meaning and connotations. They certainly need to understand and know in/appropriate usage.
alien boy - interesting comment about shut-up - this explains why my Japanese students use this - I always remind them that in Oz this is quite rude, esp in the classroom and office. It�s amazing how cultures differ. We learn all the time.
Cheers
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15 Mar 2009
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