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What is correct?

ynroko1
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What is correct?
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Hej.
I have doubts about the title of an essay my students had to write about.
Which title is correct? / What is the difference between the titles:
"Me and My computer - Pros and Cons" or
"I and My Compter - Pros and Cons"?
Thank you for help.
Have a nice Sunday.
Y.
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3 May 2009
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Apodo
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My computer and I - Pros and Cons would be normally used (Subjective case).
We usually don �t put �I � first when using �and � to join two subject words.
Pros and Cons of my Computer and me (objective case)
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3 May 2009
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rach81
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Hi,
I do agree with Apodo, When pronouns are used as subjects in a sentence the subjective case of pronouns should be used. I, You, he, she, it, we, and they are the pronouns in the subjective case and in formal writing if a compound subject consists of a noun and a pronoun the noun always come first. So, Apodo is right.
hugs c" �)
rach |
3 May 2009
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Spagman63
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Me and my Computer is correct. The way you can tell is to take off "and" and what follows. For instance if the ws was about myself I would say "Me". If I added other objects I would put them after the "and". Ex. Me and my Horse, Me and My Hobbies etc.
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3 May 2009
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rach81
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Hi spagman,
Maybe what you are referring to is when the pronoun is used as an object like Ex. My mom gave Anna and me a gift. Now if you take ANA off the sentence it will become my mom gave me a gift, which is correct. But The question here is where is the correct placement of the pronoun when it is used in a compound subject. In English grammar the rule clearly says that if a pronoun and a noun are used as compound subjects, the noun always comes first the pronoun only follows. Therefore �Me and my computer� is grammatically incorrect in formal writing it should be, My computer and I. It�s in the rules of grammar.
Hope I made myself clear.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY!
HUGS
rach c",) |
3 May 2009
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Spagman63
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Rach, I see your point but what I said is still okay for non-formal writing. Heck, people start sentences with And and But now. Titles do not follow the same rules as sentences.
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3 May 2009
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arkel
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As a native speaker I would say �me and my computer � meaning this essay is about me and my computer. Anything else sounds really strange. |
3 May 2009
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Spagman63
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Arkel, Thank you. Since it is a title it is different from a sentence.
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3 May 2009
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libertybelle
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I always learned to name another person or thing before myself. That was the polite thing to do. for example:
Therefore I would write:
My computer and I are not on good terms! My friend and I got into a lot of trouble. Sally and I went to the movies last night My family and I travel a lot. The team and I won the championship.
L
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3 May 2009
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rach81
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Hi spagman,
Yah, that �s why I said normally pronoun comes after the noun in formal writing, and since our friend from Sweden is referring to a title of an essay, therefore it should use formal Language. Unless the tone of the essay is informal though.
hugs
rach c",) |
3 May 2009
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rach81
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Hi,
I agree with libertybelle!
One more thing, even though it is a title it should still follow grammatical rules.
I �m sure you would agree that this title isn �t a good one. " THERE ARE A BUG IN MY COMPUTER" so following grammatical rules even in titles is important.
I like this site so much. I can learn lots of things like in this discussion.
hugs
rach c",) |
3 May 2009
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