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Actor: femenine and masculine?



Tere-arg
Argentina

Actor: femenine and masculine?
 
I have always known two forms -according to gender- for nouns like actor and waiter:

actor/actress                   waiter/waitress

Some years ago I started to use New English File. There it said it was common to use actor/waiter for both genders.
Talking with native speakers and teachers I was told it was not so.

Now I find the same in other text book (English in mind)

Any help?

Tks in advance

ps Need a new grammar book urgently!Confused
Any advice?




5 May 2009      



Spagman63
Hong Kong

It used to be that way but it changed a few years ago.  Now it is actor for both male/female.  

5 May 2009     



Zora
Canada

It might have changed but to us natives (at least me, myself and I Smile)... actor is for a man and actress for a woman...  same with waiter/waitress... 

5 May 2009     



Spagman63
Hong Kong

When I was in acting school in TN everyone was called an actor regardless of race, colour, creed or gender. IÂīve been here toou long. I am using Us in all my wourds. lol 

5 May 2009     



aftab57
United Kingdom

What about these? LOL
 

5 May 2009     



libertybelle
United States

I agree with Zora.
I would never call Meryl Streep and actor.
She is an actress!

5 May 2009     



Akanah
Spain

Well, i īve never called a female "actor" but, the truth is that I īve read things like "Vote the best actor (female)". My question for the native speakers: Do you use "actress" when talking and "actor (female)" for awards, lists, groups...?
 
 In Spanish we also have two words "actor" = actor (Eng) and "actriz" = actress. As Libertybelle and Zara, we never say "actor" reffering to a woman but, when talking about a group, we say "a group of actors" (both men and women)
 
 regards from Spain :=)

5 May 2009     



libertybelle
United States

The Oscars nominate people in the categories of:

Best leading actor or best leading actress.
You can īt go any higher than that.

See here.
http://www.oscar.com/nominees/?pn=nominees

5 May 2009     



Zora
Canada

Akanah Smile

Yes, we do use a "group of actors" to refer to both as you would in Spanish... And the answer to the other question is that I have seen... Best Supporting Actress, Best Actress awards... so the answer is "yes" -  I guess we do when we want to specify who the award goes to. Now if the award could go to a man or a woman - then we probably would only use "actor".

Oops butted in on Liberty!! Sorry girl!

5 May 2009     



Akanah
Spain

Thxs girls :=)

 I always use "actress" but I īve seen "best actor (female)" in some sites. Take a look:
 

5 May 2009     



Zora
Canada

Hi again! I took a look at both sites and they seem to be "foreign" awards... So, it might just be that is the reason for the "Actor (female)" thing... I honestly can īt say that I īve paid much attention to this before now BUT to me, as a native, it sounds funny to say "Best Female Actor" / "Best Actor (Female)  award.. sounds like the actor in question is a guy pretending to be a woman!!! LOL 

5 May 2009     

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