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ESL forum > Grammar and Linguistics > "To have got" or "To have gotten"........................help anyone?    

"To have got" or "To have gotten"........................help anyone?



aldanaVenadoTuerto
Argentina

"To have got" or "To have gotten"........................help anyone?
 
I was wondering what the correct form is:
 
"I �m happy to have gotten the job"
 
or
 
 
"I �m happy to have got the job"
 
 
 
I �d so much appreciate your valuable knowledge on this one....
 
THANKS IN ADVANCED
 
Aldana

28 May 2009      





raperonzolo
Italy

I think gotten is the American form while got is the British one.
Annalisa

28 May 2009     



Kate (kkcat)
Russian Federation

yup, �have gotten � is American English

28 May 2009     



**********
Portugal


He has gotten in drink.
Shakespeare, The Merry Wives of Windsor
WackoWackoWacko

28 May 2009     



aldanaVenadoTuerto
Argentina

THANKS ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
MUCH APPRECIATED....
 
 
ALL MY LOVE
 
ALDANA

28 May 2009     



Tere-arg
Argentina

Well...I think  have got and have gotten are different things.

Have got means to possess

have gotten  is the present perfect  of get, that is the aux verb have + past participle

It is also true:

Br E   get   got   got
Am E  get   got  gotten

but speaking with natives it does not seem to be so clear as British people also use gotten as well as  forgot  instead of forgotten Confused


29 May 2009     



Jayho
Australia

I think traditionally there was a difference between American and British usage , and the grammar gurus such as Swan will point out the difference.  However in reality in Australia, where our roots are British, the use of �gotten � is becoming acceptable.  This is no doubt spread through TV, the internet and music as well as the multicultural nature of our country where migrants have been educated in American English in their own country.
 
I teach the British English form, illustrate the difference with American English, and point out which form to use when (as in audience).

29 May 2009     



Nabila Manzur
Argentina

 I agree with you Tere, I think that in American English, �got � is always the past tense of �get. � The past participle supposedly can be either �got � or �gotten. � But usually �I have got � = I have. � �I have gotten � = �I received. �

I got the news yesterday.
I have got a nice house
I have gotten your nice present.

29 May 2009     



zailda
Brazil

In American English:

Got (past) gotten (participle)

I have got a headache = I have a headache.

I have gotten there on time. = Present Perfect of verb to get (something at an indefinite time in the past)


29 May 2009     



MissMelissa12
Peru

Well

American English: Im happy to have (possess) the job.
British English: Im happy to have got (possess) the job.
 
However, this sentence made me wonder: how would you say this sentence in English?
 
  "Estoy feliz de haber obtenido el trabajo "  .. would it be like this?
 
"I �m happy to have gotten the job" (Am.)
"I �m happy to have got the job" (Br.)
 
Miss Melissa.Hug
 

29 May 2009     



MissMelissa12
Peru

Wait a second.... 
It �s not possible to say " I have got a headache � � in any English zone since in this case we �ll use "HAVE � � not as possession but as a feeling , the same happens with these verbs:
 
I have breakfast, I have dinner etc.... am I right??
 
 
Wacko

29 May 2009     

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