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chrabonsc
Poland

hello
 

What �s wrong with this sentence ?

He usually wears blue, cycling, lycra shorts.

? Greetings from Poland:)

30 May 2009      





missola
Palestine

If it is about the position maybe it should be " blue lycra cycling shorts" if we consider "cycled" in the purpose category it should be places at the end. sorry for my previous answer

30 May 2009     



manonski (f)
Canada

Here is a link about adjective orders.

30 May 2009     



marta_marta
Poland

To me the phrase "cycling shorts" is fine. 
According to the rules on http://web2.uvcs.uvic.ca/elc/studyzone/410/grammar/adjord.htm it should be "blue lycra cycling shorts".

30 May 2009     



jecika
Serbia

the order of adjectives is not correct ... it should be BLUE (colour) LYCRA (material) CYCLING (purpose) shorts

check the following worksheets for further clarification

http://www.eslprintables.com/buscador/buscar.asp?nivel=any&age=0&tipo=any&contents=order+of+adjectives&B1=Search#thetop

30 May 2009     



Caroline565
Australia

Hi Jecika! You are correct! �
Hugs Caroline!�

ps.I will delete my other post. �Thank you.�

30 May 2009     



Miss_Alel�
Argentina

What about punctuation? I don �t think there should be "," between those adjectives... but I might be wrong.
 
 kisses from Argentina!

31 May 2009     



Jayho
Australia

He usually wears blue, lycra, cycling shorts.

31 May 2009     



Apodo
Australia

No commas are necessary with these adjectives. It is not the same as listing nouns where commas are needed:
 
I bought apples, bananas, grapes and oranges.
 
She wore a shimmering blue-green satin frock.

31 May 2009     



alien boy
Japan

With regard to commas, here �s the relevant section from Swann �s �Practical English Usage �:

commas

Before nouns, we generally use commas between adjectives (especially in longer sequences) which give similar kinds of information, for example in physical descriptions.
a lovely, long, cool, refreshing drink
an expensive, ill-planned, wasteful project
But commas can be dropped before short common adjectives.
a tall (.) dark (.) handsome cowboy

So, with regard to the examples quoted...

She wore a shimmering, blue-green, satin frock - would be a correct use of commas.
He usually wears blue, lycra, cycling shorts - would also be correct.

However, it also means that the following could be correct too:
He usually wears blue lycra cycling shorts
She wore a shimmering, blue-green satin frock.

I have left the comma after shimmering as (in my opinion) it is not a short adjective.

In speech converted to writing a comma is indicative of a slight pause (but not as lengthy as a full stop/period). If you try saying a descriptive adjectival sequence you will find where the commas belong in a natural speech pattern/rhythm.

31 May 2009     



Apodo
Australia

Fair enough Alien Boy. I didn �t think about the length of the adjectives.
 
I think of �shimmering blue-green � going together as the colour/look in this sentence so probably wouldn �t have added a comma anyway, cumbersome as the description is.Wink

31 May 2009     

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