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possessive case

silvanija
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possessive case
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Hello all.
What is the possessive case of the name LIZ? Liz �s, Liza �s or Lizas? 
Thanks in advance
Silvana |
16 Nov 2010
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sanchezos
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Silvana, if the name is Liz, than the possessive adjective is Liz �s, but be careful with the pronunciation.
Hugs !
PS. What a beautiful name you �ve got! 
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16 Nov 2010
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moravc
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It belongs to Liz. = It is Liz �s. :-D Beware of surnames ending in -s ! This is Mrs Jones �s house. This is the Joneses � garden. These are the Joneses � chairs.
Liza �s dog is ok only if the girl �s name is Liza.
to sanchezos: how do you pronounce Liz �s? (lizis)?
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16 Nov 2010
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silvanija
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I always thought that it should be Liz �s, but today my son was told by his English teacher that "Lizas" is the correct one... It confused me a lot  |
16 Nov 2010
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libertybelle
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the name is pronouced: Liz-es. A name never changes when writing the possessive.
Moravc - you forgot:
The Jones � house. (pronounced Joneses) The possessive can either be written with an extra �s or s �
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16 Nov 2010
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sanchezos
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Yes, like liberty...wrote.
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16 Nov 2010
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zoemorosini
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I made a printable on possessives using "s", if anyone is interested.
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16 Nov 2010
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lizsantiago
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my real name is liz and both are accepted liz � or liz �s
Possessive Form of Singular Nouns Ending with S
February 17, 2005
Many people struggle with the possessive case of singular nouns when the words already end with s. The general rule is this: Form the possessive singular of nouns with �s.
Here are some examples:
- James�s cat
- Mrs. Jones�s attorney
- Dr. Seuss�s book
Exceptions
Of course, we�re talking about the English language, so we�re going to have some exceptions to the rule. While grammar books and style guides don�t necessarily agree on how to determine these exceptions, most consider a word�s pronunciation. Here is what a few of the books say:
If pronunciation would be awkward with the added -�s, some writers use only the apostrophe. Either use is acceptable. (Diana Hacker, A Writer�s Reference)
Exceptions are the possessives of ancient proper names in -es and -is [such as Achilles� and Isis�], the possessive Jesus�, and such forms as for conscience� sake, for righteousness� sake. (Strunk and White, The Elements of Style)
With some singular nouns that end in -s, pronouncing the possessive ending as a separate syllable can sound awkward; in such cases, it is acceptable to use just an apostrophe. (Kirszner & Mandell, The Brief Holt Handbook)
Since writers vary in the use of the apostrophe, it is not possible to make a hard and fast rule about the apostrophe in singular words ending in s.� Punctuate according to pronunciation. (John E. Warriner, English Grammar and Composition) |
16 Nov 2010
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silvanija
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Thank you, dears. You are a great help.
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16 Nov 2010
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yanogator
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But, Libertybelle, your example of "the Jones � house" would only be correct if the family name is Jone. Then the plural (the whole family) would be the Jones, and the possessive, Jones �, as you said.
But, if the name is Jones, then the plural is Joneses (I �d like you to meet the Joneses, keeping up with the Joneses), and the plural possessive is Joneses �
Bruce |
16 Nov 2010
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MoodyMoody
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Bruce/yanogator, the language, it is a �changin. Those of us over a certain age were taught to use a simple apostrophe after a singular noun, common or proper, that ended in s or z. So libertybelle and lizsantiago are perfectly correct. You must be young enough that you didn �t learn that in school. Common usage now, however, is to use �s after any singular noun.
So, Silvana, tell your son �s teacher that she/he is mistaken. Although Liz and Liza can both be used as nicknames for Elizabeth, if the form is Liz, you can �t write Liza �s. (In American English, they don �t even use the same vowel sound. Liz is /liz/ and Liza is
/laiz� ə/. |
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