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ESL forum > Grammar and Linguistics > The Queen ´s English Society to fold    

The Queen ´s English Society to fold



almaz
United Kingdom

The Queen ´s English Society to fold
 
The best news of the day:


(The Queen ´s English Society have - at last - decided to call it a day)

4 Jun 2012      



ueslteacher
Ukraine

Apart from American spelling, overuse of exclamation marks and misuse of semicolons, those are my common complaints as well when I ´m marking my students ´ written assignments:) So, the Queen is no longer after us? However won´t we be after our students?:)
Sophia

4 Jun 2012     



almaz
United Kingdom

The respected linguist, Mark Liberman: the QES is "illogical, hypocritical and badly informed..."

(funny and incisive)

4 Jun 2012     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

I ´m sure it ´s funny (as far as I can trust your judgement, Alex:), but I can ´t access the content as that ´s a forbidden terrain:) 
Sophia

4 Jun 2012     



almaz
United Kingdom

Ah, try this then, Sophia:

4 Jun 2012     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

Thanks:)
Food for thought:) I am all for the more useful cheaper easily-available alternatives:)
Sophia

4 Jun 2012     



almaz
United Kingdom

Our old friend Norma Loquendi has always been available, Sophia...

4 Jun 2012     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

Yeah, right:) yet don ´t you think it ´s changing or am I missing the point of your post?
Sophia

4 Jun 2012     



almaz
United Kingdom

Apologies for any confusion, Sophia. Completely unintended; this is as good a definition as any of what I mean:

*norma loquendi: a lexicographic principle, started by Samuel Johnson, stating that the standards of word meaning and usage are established by the usage customs of the speaker community. In other words, the principle is to report how speakers use language, not dictate how the speakers ought to use the language.

This principle is still in use by lexicographers today for descriptive dictionaries such as the Oxford English Dictionary and Webster’s Third New International Dictionary.


4 Jun 2012     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

ahhh!!! Well, Alex, thanks for telling:) I thought the standard of speech was a set and rigid phenomenon:) Anyways, I now feel too lazy for any further discussion as my mind has been abused by the Royal Pains for the past couple of hours:)
Sophia

4 Jun 2012     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Language moves and develops and I personally would like to see an amnesty on the apostrophe. The young ´uns can ´t use it properly, so it ´s on its way out for sure, anyway. When I see an incorrect apostrophe, I get an irresistible urge to correct it and this can cause bad feeling. If we abolished it now, I could rest easy. 

5 Jun 2012     

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