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Techniques and methods in Language Teaching > Problem with a student
Problem with a student
SaraMariam
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Problem with a student
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Hello my
dear colleagues I�m turning to you once again to get some advice. You have
been so helpful all the time before and always gave me such great advice, so I
hope some of you may have an idea on how I can deal with this situation. I�ve
been teaching for about 12 years now and I have seen many children with difficulties,
but now I�m teaching a child (around 11 years old) � and I really have no idea
how to do with him anymore. This year was his first year of English in school. He
came to see me for private classes in the 2nd half of the school
year because he just doesn�t understand anything the teacher tells him in
school. So I�ve been working with him once per week and I found that he is
really slow in comprehension. When I explain something, he doesn�t understand
it or he thinks he understood it, but once we start the exercises he does them
wrong. I have tried all kinds of approaches. One example is, to explain the
simple present sentence structure, I made a table for him with subject verb
object, that he would just have to follow in order to do the exercises done in
school. But even with this table next to him on the table he does mistakes.
I have worked with boardgames from eslprintables (thank you so much for those
contributions) and first I thought it really helps as when we were playing the
boardgames, he seemed to have understood. But as soon as the structure changed
a bit he was totally lost again. For example I asked him a question in the game
which he answered perfectly fine. Then I ask the same question in an exercise
on paper and he wouldn�t get it at all. When I explained again, he asked me �ah, just like in the game?�. But then in the
follow up lesson, I start all over again. It�s like he really doesn�t�
understand anything, no matter which approach I�m trying.
In the last school test he had to write a dialogue between a waiter and a guest
and he didn�t even write full sentences because he can�t express himself at
all.
I asked him what he thinks where his problem is (like doesn�t understand the
tasks since written in English, concentration problems etc). But he just doesn�t
know. He said he thinks he understands, but then sees exercises and he just can�t
do them.
In all the years I had students like
that, but at least found an approach that would work after a while, but this
time I really have nooo idea anymore what to try.
The kid is not one that just doesn�t want to work and therefore refuses to
understand things. He is really trying. He has problems in other subjects as well
and has private teachers in Math in French. And he told me he understands a bit
there (his marks are sometimes good sometimes bad, not constant at all), but in
English they are always low. I know that the situation at home isn�t that great
either (his father doesn�t care much about him / doesn�t live with him, the
mother is putting pressure on him always saying he has to work hard to not end
up like her) etc.
I talked to the mother and told her that it has to stop, but whenever I hear
them talk I hear the same things over and over again.
So I thought maybe something is blocking him due to the home situation, but
then again, shouldn�t it be the same then in all subjects � So I start wondering if I�m a bad teacher, or what I
can do to help him, because he and his mum are both getting pretty desperate. And
me I start wondering about my own capacities.
I�m sorry to have kept you busy with reading all this.
It was good though, to get it out of my head J and I really hope somebody may have a little advice
on how I can do better in future?
I hope you are all having a great day and a lot of sunshine like we do in Paris :) Hugs Sara
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6 Jun 2013
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spinney
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Dear Sara, I have had similar
problems. Some people just can �t do languages. The fact that he didn �t start
until he was 11 isn �t going to help his situation. You �re just going to have to
go slow. With people that don �t get grammar, I tend not to use it in the
lesson. What �s the point of telling them "subject, verb, object" etc
when they don �t know that means in their own language? You have the right idea
by using games, and the fact that you have had some success in that seems to
prove it. I had a difficult student that could grasp conjugations in English
so, I used to do the "famous person 20 questions" game. I would write
down names of about 30 famous people with a small amount of information (job,
nationality) on cards. And then ask her simple question to practice short form
responses ("Is he a man"? "Yes, he is." "Is he from Europe?" "No, he isn �t." etc.) And after I
got her saying "yes, he is/no he isn �t" correctly, I would reverse,
getting her to ask me questions so that she got to practice "is he
...?" I would repeat that until she could do it asleep and then change it
to first and second person singular by telling her that she was the person on
the card and then I was so that she could practice "Yes, I am/no, I �m
not". "Yes you are/ no you �re not" etc. I even did nations, pop
groups and football teams to practice the plural. Slowly but surely she got it.
I used the same thing for the past (famous dead people) and similar games for
practising verbs in the present tense (What �s my job? 20 questions).
It �s going to take a long
time but you won �t get anywhere using grammar with him.
One thing to remember
though, and it �s very important- it �s not your fault!
There are lots of students
like this in every school and the fact that you are taking time out to help him
says a lot about your work ethic.
Keep up the good work and
best of luck!
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6 Jun 2013
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abba
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Has the boy got any specicfic language problems in his own language? I mean something like dyslexia... because it has happened to me, I �ve got a couple of students who can understand a text but when they have to produce their own one they just can �t. They join words with no sense, and one of them is dyslexic. |
6 Jun 2013
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Zora
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I �m with abba on this. I think that he has a learning disability of some kind. Probably dyslexia and dyscalculia - it �s like dyslexia but affects ones ability with numbers and Math. I had a student like him and he had a really difficult time remembering things in all subjects. He liked reading, but never could remember what a book was about or how to tell you about it. Any type of change was hard for him and he would get confused very easily.
Unfortunately, some parents are blind to these problems. My students mother had the nerve to say �he had only a small problem with dyslexia� when it was a problem the size of a house! I don�t know if you can tell the mother or find him help but I do know that if he stays with you - patience and do NOT let mummy tell you it�s your fault he�s not learning.
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6 Jun 2013
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manonski (f)
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I think this kid needs to be evaluated by someone who can diagnose dyslexia or learning disabilities. You �ve done a lot of great things with that student and the fact it does not work only points towards a disability of some kind.
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6 Jun 2013
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ldthemagicman
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Sara,
I agree with all of the above comments.
I think that the student has some form of dyslexia.
YOU ARE AN EXCELLENT TEACHER. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. YOU ARE NOT TO BLAME.
If you send me your e-mail address I will forward some ordinary, simple, repetitive Worksheets, (NOT to cure dyslexia) which may help him and you.
What a LUCKY STUDENT he is to have such a LOVELY, devoted Teacher as you!
Les |
6 Jun 2013
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SaraMariam
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I really don �t know what to say. I was really really touched by what you all said!! You are so great and your students are the lucky ones to have such great teachers! You made me feel so much better. I was really down the last days questioning myself. It feels so good to hear that it is not my fault. I must admit that didn �t think about dyslexia at all. I had a feeling though that something must be wrong somewhere (like either due to the home problems or psychological ones) I always had in my head that in all forms of dyslexia you are mixing up letters like d and b. But reading a bit more about it thanks to your help now, it seems to have many forms. I will try to find out how the system works in France to get him tested and hope that the mother will take the advice.
Thank you so much, everybody, for all your advice and especially you taking so much time and thought to help me with my problem. It is really touching and I really appreciate it!
Hugs Sara |
6 Jun 2013
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